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The exclusive the author who wrote the story about a secret deal between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton joins me for his very first television interview.
And Klein is going to be here to explain how the clintons force the president into agreeing to endorse his former secretary of state for 2060.
We have more on that developing story later this hour plus reaction to the report that several top Obama aides are now privately calling for the attorney general Eric Holder to step down.
But first we begin tonight there were fireworks on Capitol Hill today as lawmakers convened a fourth hearing into the IRS enemies list scandal.
Now this was the first time the agency's new acting commissioner testified about the scandal.
Now Daniel -- fell was joined by treasury department's inspector general Jay Russell George.
And as always on this program we watch these proceedings very closely and we put together all the highlights let's take a look from earlier today.
-- alleged targeting of conservative organizations applying for tax exempt status.
Is a shameful violation.
I'll -- intent of the constitution.
I'm deeply offended we will not tolerate.
Another political enemies list.
We've been there before you plan on clearing house terminating any Warner holding anyone accountable.
I certainly plan holding people accountable well I don't know that would -- what is your definition of account.
So here is here as a good question has anyone to date been held accountable let me answer your question this way.
If you look at the -- -- a yes or no has been -- been held accountable.
I would say yes I'm willing -- being on administrative leave is accountability is -- are still being paid today she has.
Present your definition of accountability.
Well if you let me if you'd indulge me just answer the question -- -- and easy yes or no.
How many Americans how many groups of Americans continue to have.
Their applications to -- how many groups continue to be.
Held under unjust -- constitutional scrutiny by the IRS as of today it's of question that that I want to answer to as well when government.
Targets individuals for their beliefs.
This is now on the front.
On democracy and our freedoms what we want to know is who gave the orders or did this come from.
We will not rest.
-- were -- until you somebody gets -- those answers.
Now clearly there are still way more questions than there are answers when it comes to the scandal not today's testimony came just 24 hours after the chairman of the house oversight committee.
Dropped a bombshell on the Sunday shelves now according to California congressman Darrell -- -- at least one IRS employee who was interviewed by investigators stated very clearly.
That the orders to target conservatives came directly from Washington DC watch this.
The administration's storefront is say there's a few rogue agents in Cincinnati when in fact the indication is they -- directly being -- from Washington.
Good reason that lowest -- tried to take the fifth.
Is not because.
There's a -- in Cincinnati it's because this is a problem that was coordinated in all likelihood right out of Washington headquarters.
And we're getting to proving it.
-- this investigation is far from over tomorrow the house Ways and Means Committee will hold a hearing featuring some of the average Americans who were unfairly harassed by the IRS.
Joining me now with a preview are two members of that committee Texas congressman Kevin Brady and Illinois congressman Aaron -- gentlemen.
-- -- the program thank you loved being with us.
Thank you didn't get our congressman Brady first -- let's set the table eight do you see this as a political enemies -- are.
You know I do in fact the matter is.
The new acting commissioner had an opportunity today -- -- -- -- headlines tell the truth about where these abuses of Harrison -- who initiated.
How broad and wide indeed it is was his personal information see here.
With other agencies -- drastic parties in mind region but.
I think he's -- try to douse the flames rather than get into tomorrow's hearing is not hearing from the victims of these pieces I think they'll help shed light.
On this whole investigation.
All right I think the question though congressman shocked that we now have to answer the administration through Jay Carney and others.
They have they've tried that over and over again to -- this these are -- -- agents out of Cincinnati got to prove that point.
Let me play Jay Carney and and others saying that very thing watched us.
Line RN IRS employees in Cincinnati improperly scrutinizing 501 C four organizations by using words like Tea Party -- and patriots.
IRS employees are placed in a position of great trust employees the tax exempt unit of the IRS offices in Cincinnati abuse distrust the apparent conduct by IRS officials in Cincinnati.
The exempt organizations field office.
In Cincinnati Ohio used in appropriate criteria.
Well the president doesn't know that everything that is going on in every agency of government should mr.
Boehner had known the causes neighboring district and since Cincinnati where the IRS office is I don't think you.
-- -- left him accountable for what happened in that IRS office.
-- congressman before I get to the specific.
Things that people in Cincinnati have said do you believe those statements -- talking points to be true -- Absolutely not.
Sean I -- this very issue -- -- two weeks ago at our first ways and means hearing.
Working with the Thomas More society.
You based in Chicago my home state did -- help lay out a series of pro life groups.
Not 912 not Tea Party.
Not the groups that they say.
In states like Iowa Texas California the Pacific coast region.
-- where these people were illegally targeted ask questions like what are the contents of your members prayers.
Ask them to pledge not to protest in front of Planned Parenthood in exchange for their final one C three status clear violation of of their constitutional right.
This is true we don't we don't have to wonder we have copies of the hire a stationary.
With their letterhead asking these inappropriate illegal questions which completely your point.
-- -- proves that -- statement that this is just Cincinnati.
Bogus and this reminds me too often.
But what happens in my home state of Illinois.
The Chicago machine has infected Washington DC and these guys are using the muscle government to -- and snuff out any political opponent they see.
I don't -- -- go through a series we have the transcripts of interviews with IRS employees from Cincinnati and and elsewhere and I want to.
Go through it because that narrative that they've been advancing does not appear to be true based on what these employees are saying for example.
One of the transcripts -- did you your supervisor -- any indication.
For this search in any more context.
He told me that Washington DC -- in some cases next one another interview with an -- and employee.
So as of two April 2010 he's forty cases.
Were held at the moment.
In your group is that right some war how many were held less than forty someone to Washington DC how many I -- seven.
And then it goes on to say in another question so what do you think about this the allegation that's been made.
I think you've seen a lot of press reports that there were two rogue agents in Cincinnati responsible for all these issues that we've been talking about today what do you think about those allegations.
Quote it's impossible as an agent we are controlled by many many people.
We have to submit many many reports so the chance of two agents being -- in doing things like that could never happen.
I have some more gonna get to a second congressman Brady what's your reaction to that based on the talking point that it has been in advance of these -- rogue agent.
It's at the very first half of this investigation which is going to be -- -- Very complete the very first step IRS workers themselves.
Just rejected the home White House -- spin on this issue of course they didn't Embarq common very controversial.
Targeting in leaking a private person taxpayer Steve Mason without.
Direction from up above and how far back goes -- -- -- knows we're gonna get some treatment thank you this.
This happened in the very first step I think as we go through.
All he needs is on the targeting of donors and organizations.
The leaking of private information to media liberal groups in May need to campaigns.
I think we're I think this is.
The first down.
-- congressman -- let's go through two more portions of IRS employees answering questions.
Number one question.
And you've heard I'm -- news reports about individuals and Washington saying that the problem was originated in in contained in the Cincinnati office.
And that it was a Cincinnati office that was at fault.
What is your reaction answer.
Well it's hard to answer that question because in my mind they hear people saying that were low level employees so we're lower than dirt report in the people in DC so take it for what it's worth.
They were basically throwing us under the bus and one last one question.
So what's your perspective that ultimately the responsibility that responsible parties for the decisions.
That were reported by the IG are not in the Cincinnati office.
Answer I don't know how to answer that question I mean from an agent standpoint we didn't do anything wrong we followed directions based on other people telling us what to do.
Question and -- ultimately followed directions from Washington and is that correct if direction -- come down from Washington yes.
Well with the respect to this particular Tea Party applications etc.
I believe self.
This well this seems to contradict.
Everything that we have been told.
About this story.
About rogue agents.
Pretty -- employees -- what does that how good does that take us now.
Well it takes -- much closer to Washington DC much closer to the White House you know -- two weeks ago Jay Carney stood in front of the nation and said.
How we didn't know anything about.
This situation this was a case of a few rogue agents in Cincinnati.
Since that time we've learned that the White House chief counsel was -- we've learned that this is the White House's chief of staff the president's own chief of staff.
His closest confidant was it was a -- we also know that it wasn't just Cincinnati it was as I mentioned Texas the Pacific coast region as well.
On this is the beginning of many hearings we need to have because clearly and fortunately the Obama administration is not attempting to get to the root problem.
And that leaves many Americans saying perhaps they are the problems perhaps they were the ones that made the play calls.
Not to to launch in this it into -- illegal behavior.
Gentlemen thanks -- -- we're gonna continue to work hard get to the truth especially when clearly their obvious contradictions here but thank you both.
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