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While joining me now Leslie Marshall syndicated radio talk show host and Fox News contributor and Chris -- host of the Chris Plante show.
I say again while I mean what an exchange and and -- you heard McDermott objecting when Paul Ryan.
Responded on the fly to what he had to -- he went right after McDermott.
In terms of sequence and her and -- objecting to Paul Ryan trying to challenge what -- said but.
That was an extraordinary exchange -- -- congressman McDermott unencumbered by any quaint old fashioned notions of decency honesty and integrity.
Decided to attack the people that have been targeted for their political -- by the most vicious arm of the federal government.
The IRS they've been held up for years by the IRS and and he misrepresented.
I don't want -- you know it's not -- to call people liars in Washington DC even when that's obviously what they're doing.
The IRS did not target liberal groups during the bush administration on congressman -- there was not the chairman of the government oversight committee at the time.
He also went on to make this phony specious claim that the head of the IRS.
Was appointed by bush therefore he must be a Republican.
Also not true contributor Democrat.
The DNC and beyond that the congressman's just honesty was -- all lit only by his shame business.
-- his lack of integrity and and the vulgarity.
Of the defenses that we're seeing launch these days are really beyond anything I've seen in my 25 years of watching Washington.
Very closely which which have been doing from DC it's worse than I've ever seen it and that's a pretty good example of everything that is despicable and disgusting about this city.
Leslie I would I watch those witnesses testify one after the other you know the woman from Ohio lie and then and you know the one who almost broke down in tears and said look good on.
Republican on Democrat just an American.
I knew this was wrong when it was.
And the one guy talking about how they are seeking records -- with respect to children that he what he meant to teach and sought.
And this is the response and it isn't just congressman McDermott think this is gonna help him.
Well I don't I think he's looking for a political favor with what he set I think he's frustrated.
And I do think -- he's -- is right to be.
I guess I I -- I hear you but I do think he's frustrated because I think he is saying what many people are saying and some on the -- are saying -- as well.
We have four investigations.
If you want -- special prosecutor finds.
This was horrendous was it illegal.
These groups definitely were targeted they definitely were targeted because of their political ideology and that was wrong but Chris I need to correct you in 042 year investigation.
Into the NAACP.
For having an ad that ran against president -- sitting George W.
The All Saints episcopal church where I live in Pasadena they were going to have their tax exempt status revoked because of -- -- sermon about eight an anti -- Hello that we -- waiting as I because I -- -- tell them -- -- I had the former IRS commissioner on this program Friday and I asked him about it what prior.
You know alleged allegations of targeting a Riley spoke with a minute before -- -- more specifically.
And he said yes there were some instances in which we reviewed the tax exempt status of a couple of groups.
That we felt had been behaving over -- politically right but never on the front end to this wide -- You got Tea Party unity you're going over determinations unit and a Lois and her friends.
Are gonna spend three years preventing you from get that getting at status in the first place press.
It's obvious and obviously the difference couldn't be more stark it's the difference between bringing people who -- suspects in a murder case and verses just rounding up the neighborhood.
-- -- -- by virtue of the fact that there are geographically convenient.
It -- I'm all in favor of taking a look at the political activities of tax exempt organizations that's perfectly legitimate.
That's not what happened here and -- -- to pretend that it's anything other than what it is your first admitted.
Leslie that it is what it is and then you attempted obviously it by bringing up two cases -- You should look at tax exempt status of organizations like this -- congressman McDermott went way around the band here this is -- -- -- Baghdad Jim he's got a long and storied history in Washington DC.
He's one of three Democrats -- accepted a trip to Baghdad on the lead up to the Iraq invasion that was funded as it turned about turned out by.
Saddam Hussein's intelligence services this is not a man -- Steeped in integrity and honest yet -- -- attempting to lay down cover smoke like that -- But is offensive and repugnant rhetoric had just given the fact.
So I tell our viewers it got Mardy getting emails from from other viewers -- -- -- one of whom said he just tried to call congressman McDermott's office to find out why he said this.
He claims that the DC staffer answering the phone hung up on me three times to them points out on the taxpayer -- -- that guy's salary and -- -- -- that all of that -- I just hung up on me.
I want to ask you this Leslie that the -- that the last -- by congressman McDermott.
I haven't heard a single word here about what questions you think we ought to be able to ask you about your taxes -- request.
Is that the obligation of the woman from Iowa.
Big -- so screw it up at the IRS in Cincinnati and Washington that now.
The lady from I was got to come -- before the house ways and means Canadians say this is the way it needs to be done any -- -- the burden on her.
I don't feel it was that way I feel that was -- I took it more rhetorically because if you're saying look the responsibility.
Given by congress to the IRS to determine who does and does not deserve tax exempt status and as you rightly pointed out there is that fine line I -- please the Tea Party isn't as an example political.
The sand we know what this it is but any group left or right that is applying for this tax exempt status.
As Americans -- as a taxpayer I want them left and right to be scrutinized some of these organizations should not be given tax exempt status because they are truly political in nature.
And that as -- dance with the Supreme Court stated.
Could be allowed under title eighteen so I don't it's rhetorical and I think it is accurate you can't listen to apply for the status and not had any -- By the iris but that's about how the -- just -- -- -- witnesses did not say we shouldn't have had any scrutiny they were talking about.
Give us the -- to your donors did tell -- anybody who may run for office the future.
All of which is not that's not -- that okay unaudited that is wrong -- -- nearly equipment -- William and many on my side.
-- -- you know that this is just an ongoing effort to to obscure the facts of the case here.
The facts of the case are that conservative groups were targeted by key word on the lead up to the presidential election.
In an obvious effort on someone's part to disrupt the political activities of grassroots organizations that would contribute to the election of Mitt Romney.
How -- out good good debate is so easy to thank you both.
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