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-- alert now on new fallout from the hearing we watched yesterday into the IRS is targeting of conservative groups.
Yesterday for the first time we heard directly from Tea Party groups and others telling their stories of alleged IRS harassment they endured.
Detailing the invasive questioning a long delays they were subject to after applying for tax exempt status.
-- congressman Jim McDermott of Washington State got turned he challenged some of those accounts.
And their motives.
None of your organizations.
If you didn't come in and asked for this tax break.
You would have never had a question this review I get the feeling that many -- -- And -- Republican colleagues just don't believe.
-- you believe you should be free from political targeting but you should be for free from any scrutiny at all.
Now Washington democratic congressman Jim McDermott congressman thank you for coming on.
So we watch celebrated just yesterday and headed discussion about it and they questioned whether you were blaming the victim as Paul Ryan suggested moments after you concluded your remarks you understand that criticism.
The anybody who would make that criticism.
Did listen to my whole speech.
Five minutes talking in -- tell you know one line.
The fact was I said five time.
That the questions that they were asked were egregious they were out of bounds they shouldn't have been asked.
And I said that over and over again very clearly.
But what I was trying to do was to say this process.
Of acts he wore a tax exemption.
Is one that.
Once you ask for one you open yourself up to being questioned.
And I think that we want the questions to be on both sides the only group that lost that was told they couldn't have an exemption was a liberal group.
Gavin and -- America like you know that many many conservative groups hundreds of them were kept waiting with no answers for months and money actually in the meantime never.
They were just never denied there -- why is that what what does their parents who cares if it's if you're stuck for three years well answer that -- hitting every night.
They can still operate.
They could still collect money they can still put out advertisements they can use their First Amendment right.
Nobody at the IRS stop them from doing that -- -- -- -- -- -- They lost the 30000 dollar donation because a lot of people don't want to donate to groups that haven't received that stamp of approval.
An officially becoming a 501 -- four.
I was not under testimony.
Under -- I don't know you reject -- offer any proof he didn't offer any.
He was -- -- he was lying is this your answer now and -- anybody New Orleans.
That they want him Indonesians are there -- Kelly you are putting words in my mouth I'm not asking you -- large you are putting words in my mouth stopping.
I'm not -- -- unasked say winning our guys rejecting that testimonial.
As not true.
-- and saying people can say anything and they do say in testimony before committees.
But the fact is that.
We don't know that to be true if you would bring some evidence in and show it to us we would be glad to see that that somebody -- I offered you 30000 dollars.
And because you don't have a tax exempt status I'm not gonna give it to him if he had a letter or something like that.
That we would have something to talk about.
What would you just listening to people tell you stuff tell us in the congress things all the time.
And that and no.
IRS hears people say all the time and they asked more questions and ask for documentation.
That's the nature this is not an honor system for giving.
Tax exemptions we don't we make people.
And it would -- America a progressive organization who was training democratic women to run for office when they asked.
The IRS -- -- for questions and they said no that's political.
That's the way so.
So once it is so is the groups so these women and mentally we've got a full screen of some of the witnesses who came before yesterday.
That it was -- obligation it it was assumed Martina of the the right to life group in Iowa she she -- said.
This is inappropriate I understand system and I can tell you I know that these are not appropriate questions when you tell me that I have to guarantee you I won't -- at a protest outside -- Planned Parenthood.
I -- you out once again as we saw you -- yesterday seemed to be putting the burden.
On an honest American citizens who are lining up for -- the final four status and that's that's they have no there there there's nothing wrong with them doing that.
I am not putting the burden on them I'm its leading the process.
If you ask for a tax exemption.
You have to be prepared.
Right now I think I got and even -- what does that -- a minute I said half a dozen times.
That that just the patient was asked war in -- -- it.
Was wrong and I am on the side of six people sitting at -- I absolutely think it's.
I absolutely let me begin let -- -- it I had to.
I wanna get it I get to this portion of your remarks which yet you seem to be putting the burden again on -- on the good Americans honest Americans who before you just tell their stories.
When you said the following here.
Why are we having the people who told us your story we got out of the way now let's get on how we fix it.
The real question is how do you fix this because it's gonna continue to happen if you don't fix it.
And there there's no it was not anything said in the whole pairing up the time I was there -- -- stayed -- the very end.
And there was never anybody talking about how do we fix.
I understand that there might usually not a phrase it rhetorical question to the Republicans -- ends they use that I haven't heard.
I don't work here -- out what went vertical what do you think if you use these kids we asked to be able to ask you about your accident I don't know west.
The Republicans weren't making tax exempt requests it was the people before you.
So it's certainly satellite a direct question to the good men and women who took time out of their day after being harassed by RI RS.
The speed sensor -- that -- right in your right you believe it to their viewers to decide thank you for being answer we've got to go -- I'll let us to see again.
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