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Senator nice to see -- -- for you.
You have proposed an amendment US constitution.
What is that that -- -- -- dealing with -- obamacare viewer call last year when the Supreme Court held that heard the case on obamacare the argument was he can't require congress can't require you to buy something like health insurance.
And the answer was no they can't require you to buy something but they can tax you -- you failed to buy it.
So this amendment basically says no you can't you cannot it's an amendment of the constitution says that the congress cannot punish people for failing to buy something like health insurance.
Where they tax.
That's what it is it's pretty straightforward it's time for the right to refuse the call the retrofit -- and it has advantages as well in the house it has and has.
Congressman -- so in the house has introduced and we hope we can get look I think the samarra bombing cares she's going to be a real disaster for the country.
Just wait till October when people in Medicare Advantage start to get their letters explaining all the benefits they're losing.
Just wait till January when people see their rates start to go up on their personal insurance.
Just wait -- businesses start to figure out that they're gonna have to pay a 2000 dollar finer.
Have to lay people off -- movement a part time to comply with obamacare when that hits our economy next year and it starts to hit it later this year -- -- I think the -- -- really that.
Kind of freak out for lack of a better -- There's not another set to wind down these states not all the states to saint exchange -- -- government has to an appellate federal government has not at least yet completed that also get them -- over.
I don't know where they can -- do it but then that got the problem that the implementation released the -- aspect of -- through the IRS the IRS -- -- -- -- a -- Well that's another issue that when the agencies is on the front line of enforcing obamacare is the IRS Internal Revenue Service the same organization that targeted people because of their political views.
Are not going to be reaching out to your insurance company to determine what kind of insurance coverage you have.
Whether you really been paying it what does that insurance cover not cover.
They're adding that was it between 16102000.
Additional employees to enforce this law I mean we have this agency that's already.
Has no credibility with the American public and we're putting him on the front lines of a program -- quite frankly cannot be administered.
They love the Obama administration thinks it can and that and the mad scramble at least not trip -- had -- but in the meantime you've got this set.
The -- for a constitutional amendment do you realistically think that didn't get a constitution amendment I don't.
Well I don't they got to get it today but here's the point we need to start developing this idea because one win this thing starts to fall apart when obamacare in the full -- an impact on our economy starts to be felt.
People who start looking for answers what can we do about it how can we get out of this.
And we want this to be an option that's on the table for people in fact I think after the 2014 election.
Given the disaster that Obama -- is going to be we could very well have the votes votes in both chambers.
To do significant repeals not -- not all of obamacare to the key portions out of this actually would take the heart right out of obamacare which is the individual mandate.
Not what they get it seems more likely to me that if we begin a give the Republican and he's a really from what it would be in repeal it but to get a constitutional amendment.
To do that you've got to get two thirds of senate's two thirds of house represents Mike at that house so that -- -- that the senate.
And then three fourths of -- state legislatures well let me just.
They had -- -- here here's the point I think that once obamacare has the impact the negative impact and it's going to have and our economy.
People are including Democrats are going to be looking for a way to distance themselves from this I think this going to be that level of disaster for the economy.
You've outlined some of the reasons why but it's worse than that.
Look what we're gonna see it next year when businesses realize that you know maybe it's better we only have 49 employees and -- -- fifty or maybe it's better -- -- ten or fifteen people on the part time status.
That's gonna be felt throughout our entire economy but.
You you make that statement based unbeaten -- says the assumption that this is going to get implement it I really don't know how it's gonna get implemented if we don't have these exchanges.
If they don't have the money got HHS.
Secretary civilians trying to go on to raise money privately because she's not been for the -- I don't even -- how we get to the point where where you're talking.
Not -- -- -- the point is that small businesses and midsize businesses and even larger businesses if they have to they can buy at some point this year as they sit down with their tax professionals -- -- lawyers they have to plan for the fact this could and and is supposed to be implemented.
They have to start planning for that they can't wait till January to do something about they got to start do something about it.
This year that -- start making hiring decisions this year they'll start making decisions to lay people off.
This year the start planning for next year.
Based on all this information all these assumptions.
That's gonna this is gonna start having an impact on our economy this year the fact I think over the next few months -- -- start to see the negative impact that Obama can I have.
I issued -- maybe even talking about two -- computer in some ways you're trying but the people who are employed and have some health insurance or possibility.
There that -- -- like 25 or thirty million people that aren't that have no health insurance that was supposed to be adding to this right that's so that sort of think that's even more catastrophic.
Because most and say that they're not gonna buy into the X 64% say that the pay the fine writing campaign but I'm also -- is a huge problem -- terms of trying to build bring down the costs overall.
Right because then they're not covered and they're not but they're also being hit by the fine but in addition to that I'm talking about small and midsize businesses.
-- at some point this year are gonna meet -- tax professional or somebody else.
And they're gonna basically -- look this is what you're gonna have to do next year.
And in this business is gonna say well that's gonna cost me a lot of money.
-- just gonna -- some people off so I don't have to comply with it or I'm just not gonna expand my business -- here or I'm gonna close on a division of my business section because I -- the savings in order to comply -- Those decisions start to get made now and the next few months as people get ready for next.
Think President Obama -- right now about Obama can't turn to the implementation and whether or not it's going to actually work out once is too -- I think there -- significant I think they can see the same things we -- I think they're very worried about it.
And we know that just recently as a as a couple days ago we discovered that all these democratic offices have gotten this binder that basically tells them.
You know I think he did to assign somebody in their home district to be the outreach person on obamacare.
And all these sorts of things to try to get it to.
To fix it in order to at least make it look better in the eyes of the public.
The problem is that the system in and of itself is not implement doubles you've outlined its going to be a complete disaster for the American economy.
And for American businesses and American employers and it's gonna hurt millions of Americans and we didn't start to feel that this year I know in my home state of Florida in October of this year.
People on Medicare Advantage like my mom we'll get a letter in the mail and it will describe to them the benefits they used to get.
And the benefits are no longer getting and they're not going to be happy about it and sadly they don't know -- yet.
Because there's a gag order HHS is issued a gag order on these insurance companies telling them you can't tell your your customers about this how -- that.
And they can't going to gag order than not allowed to tell their customers what the changes are gonna come -- how how does it possibly be who came up -- again that was part of the original levels part of the original days after the bill was passed said I didn't want to get passed in house delegate eight dollar and rule it's a rule.
It afterward absolutely and the reason -- they don't want insurance companies you know.
Don't jetting up their customers against the law are against implementing the law and they don't want the -- didn't want the insurance.
To know that the potential patients know of these changes that were coming so they're not allowed to write a Medicare Advantage.
It sure is not allowed today to tell their recipients what's coming down the pike.
But they will tell -- an October when they get their benefit letter and it tells in this here we no longer cover dental or -- Care what have you left eye system health personally I mean is broken I want people to have medical care.
But I'm you know I'm an act I mean I I don't see as this is unfolding that this is -- -- unfold in a good way for Americans.
I don't think there's any way to implement obamacare effectively and in fact.
I think just the very existence of an over the next few months is gonna have a very detrimental effect -- American jobs I wish to present day and the Republicans would sit down -- -- -- before we have a problem is trying to.
Fix whatever it is that well I think there's so married to it now they're just gonna try to move forward on it and SEC now you know.
-- -- out of trying to raise money to.
Said you know convincing them to -- public relations campaign -- in regards to it.
But I think at this point it's full steam ahead for them and I know that there are democratic colleagues' -- are very concerned about it he sees some of them publicly state that aren't.
Any problem is that HHS secretary of -- is raising money from people that you know overseas or regulates I sit as a topic of interest me they couldn't -- it as a lawyer minute as a lawyer if we try to -- like they get -- -- I can tell you for example as a policymakers I cannot -- -- raise money to go -- and promote a bill of mine and so forth.
What they're -- -- or she actually oversees these individuals imagine getting a phone call.
From and then the head of HHS asking you for money knowing that they make all sorts of rules and regulations that directly impact your bottom line.
I think that's a pretty and comfortable position to begin.
And then to raise the money for the purposes of going out and promoting this law is this not something that's appropriate.
I think -- she's trying to is trying to scramble to make it go right I think you know I -- I think you know I think her heart's in the right place on this trying to make -- go right.
I just don't think they can possibly ask money from people you regulate to finance something.
Well again I don't think this -- -- -- no matter how much -- they do the bottom line is that the impacts are going to be what they are there are people have insurance coverage say that -- happy with -- they're going to lose it.
There are people that are gonna see the premiums go up significantly there are seniors on Medicare Advantage they're gonna lose benefits are getting right now.
There are businesses are gonna decide not to hire people or to lay some people off.
There are businesses are gonna decide if we'll move full time employees to part time status.
All of that is going to happen no matter how much money -- raises and spends to get the word out because that's what this bill does and it's going to be a disaster.
But hoping Iran although I'm like frank met the writing on the laws that particular day you know -- attractive I don't think I'm you know as to what what might happen.
I think there and I think it is from let me turn another question immigration.
Where -- where -- stand -- A new immigration bill.
Well I think it's pretty straightforward and I've said this to people if we do in order to get the votes to pass it out of the senate not to mention house in essence an order not to pass a bill but to pass a law.
If people have to know that this is never gonna happen again.
They're prepared to deal with -- eleven million people that are in this country illegally people understand the status quo we have right now is unacceptable it's de facto amnesty.
They're prepared to deal with this but only if we take steps that ensure that this never ever happens again in the future.
And so I think that's what the next few weeks are going to be about.
It's coming up the changes to this bill that ensure that our border -- secure that you verify is working that we're tracking the entry and exit of visitors to our country.
So that we can ensure that when we deal with this issue now it'll be the last time we deal with -- But we have.
Well couple things we now have resources at our disposal and didn't exist 25 lives ago or maybe even ten for example drone technology.
The ability to fly overhead and spot people in the night that are crossing and then be able to follow them quite frankly and doing well I forgot what folly and apprehend people -- you can get out throughout the desert you can see -- even at night and we know that technology exists.
Ground sensors that we know the double layer fencing works and it needs to be built in other was a bill passed and 2007 or 2006 that requires 700 miles of double fencing and that was never built back to congress came back the next year.
And defund -- a significant portion of it.
Staffing levels of the Border Patrol but the other part of it is.
And it -- But allows -- -- to positively identify with the person you're hiring is legally here or not.
And the third is just tracking visitors we -- people when they come in but we don't track when they leave 40% of our illegal immigrants entered the country legally and just overstated.
They've overstayed their visas we don't know who they are because we don't -- people when they leave.
The segment and our borders -- whether it's JFK or in the mime Miami International Airport right it's not just in us is aboard between US and Glasgow -- that all these major border sort of people are coming and coming in and some visas vacation visas.
And then did you stay how many they'll have to have a passport when they come in when they -- Why did the fact that you have to strike to back out I mean there's an accident in history but the magazine you come and said today yet to decide -- to you've got to be a six month -- -- decide -- -- ten years and up -- and do.
What about the problem is once you enter the country here registered as clocking in basic right.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And that's why the 7-Eleven Maria -- -- like 45 employees have to do verify it is -- -- -- -- -- employer.
What's about -- Internet based system I mean you quite frankly go online you can go under the system -- software's cost effective.
The person we'll have to produce an idea no type their name into the program and you can see that's them there be a photo tool that shows you that's them.
And then -- be able to verify you print that out you put it in the following you've hired them because you know they're here legally.
If the person doesn't check out as legally here they can't work for you and if you hire them.
We're doubling the penalties for people who violate that -- for businesses that -- -- -- we have the software for.
And I can say I'm John though.
And you don't know because it's just a name you run it through John -- comes up as legal even though it's not me.
And you hire me now will be a photo to associate it when it.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It and anywhere especially going to be effective are people that are in this country and a non immigrant status or recent arrivals that as part of their entry program -- gonna have that photo of themselves taken.
They're going to be able to match that up and they're going to be able to see not just a card.
But a picture and all know that that's the person -- not how does it take to.
Fix that program well the bottom line we are -- implementing it for all the big businesses within 24 months and then all businesses within four years so we'll take a little bit longer for agriculture -- smaller businesses to be able to implement it.
So will take some time to ramp up but already for example it's mandatory at the federal -- It's already mandatory for most people that are critical infrastructure -- they'd -- they'd go first in the large employers -- more than 5000 people they have 24 months to fully implement.
By the way there are some states that are to have mandatory.
And then of course the other employers and agriculture -- -- of the four years to fully comply because it's gonna take time to get them online some will do it sooner.
Let's say so realistic timetable when you think that this will be if if this does pass when when you think this -- pass.
The bill yes.
Well I think out of the senate we're gonna start working on the next week and to take multiple weeks three weeks four weeks -- -- solid doesn't it -- but I think it's important an issue like this.
-- there -- some I think one of the things we forgotten in the city but I think in general is that we have a legislative process in this republic.
And the way that's designed to work as you present an idea people comment on that those comments often make the bill better you take that into account and that's how you supposed to develop a law.
Through the public input of all 100 senators not just eight people -- ten title working behind closed doors I think -- -- this hurdles thrown up to thank.
Well I think there are some people that -- gonna support no matter what we do and and many -- you know good faith objections but by and large the vast majority of my colleagues vast majority of conservatives are prepared to deal of immigration reform.
If we secure the border if we implement.
If we can do that if we can take real measures that will prevent another wave of illegal immigration we're gonna have immigration reform and if we don't we're not.
-- CSF nice to see.