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Where are we in -- -- Well I think obviously.
As a nation we -- be very careful that we don't cross -- line because we don't want to have Big Brother among us and we are edging a little bit closer to that all the time.
But look if they got a court order they had to prove to the court that they had a methodology in place that was yielding some sort of valuable intelligence.
So what they're probably doing and and again they're not listening to conversations they're taking the metadata.
From the Verizon records and they're probably putting it through some sort of an algorithm and a computer.
And finding relationships.
Between people and calls between folks that are having communication inside the country and folks who were communicating.
Which certain hot spots and people outside the country that our intelligence community is tracking.
That is my assumption that's what's being done with this data and so there is an intelligence value to doing it it's not like either of listening in on you know grandma's phone conversations -- had this problem with this -- -- what does it.
Well the problem is that you are absolutely right I'm sure all of that's true and happen.
For the average American this -- people really comparable -- -- why this is because.
It's it's so -- -- that it's orwellian it's Big Brother.
There's a report that this happened with the AT&T and sprint back in 2007.
As well but maybe not in terms of the same scope.
But this makes people very uncomfortable because they they.
They are not certain that the line between just getting information -- is listening to conversations will not be.
Lost and and I think you know something we say when something's not legal.
People find a way to make it legal and and yeah -- -- -- -- it mean to.
And this this was a controversy when the Patriot Act was being discussed initially right after nine elevenths.
And I'm -- of cinema so.
Look at around now and I'm asking everybody on the live chat.
How do you feel about the NSA accessing.
Phone records of millions of American Verizon customers.
It seems you're attempting to post.
-- -- -- -- -- I'm just pushing -- -- coming on the live chat and they'll like me and got into this that they think -- uninformed but.
Oh my gosh the mother on -- -- -- -- okay I'll I'll fix that.
A minute but anyway you check back the question is how do you feel about the NSA access -- accessing phone records of millions of American Verizon customers.
Some people though on the flip side of Basel and Thomas are gonna feel good about this because they're gonna say well they're doing something to protect us and good golly when you see where it.
Beat the hackers from abroad are doing to hack into our Smartphones.
And they haven't done so yet but they packed into a whole lot of other things.
At the government level.
It makes you feel better that at least somebody is looking out for arson and trying to find his connections look at Boston.
Not at all I'm doing just that classroom information that's come out -- these guys and phone calls and emails and and postings online that they made on the suspects.
This is this this is America are getting used to.
Is in the digital age.
And we don't really know how to do all this stuff yet and we're not sure even how to protect ourselves yet.
Were also not sure where that line is in terms of in terms of protecting our civil liberties which we need to do.
Our government does a lot of things that our top secret -- they do a lot of things that folks don't know about but that is intended to try and protect this country.
And this is a new a new paradigm for us that's only about ten years old ten years older so.
That's very different than we used to think about warfare.
And how we protected this country he was with a gun it was with a missile.
But now it's going to be increasingly with data and information.
And its data and information that all of us are now participating -- so it's a very complex issue.
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