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Probably he's tracking.
Every phone call -- some sense.
Is -- and so we will.
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These days we'll do that and you also talk about this question.
As Republicans continue to -- for sure.
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All of that it will be thoughtful -- will be determined it will be funny I know what will be funny because.
AB Stoddard is here.
And AB Stoddard is one of your -- -- which -- an associate editor at that hill.
She is a columnist there and she -- one.
Now that's yesterday's news literally -- quite literally yesterday's news but still have understanding I also think it might be.
Because just over here to Goldberg is yes the editor at large -- national review on -- yes that's true.
And -- also was syndicated columnist yes that is also true -- -- Goldberg is also.
I would give him if -- would you agree the the best Twitter follow in America.
Yes I I do follow him yes and and -- actually -- -- right here from -- -- shadow from anonymous -- you actually have to -- many hours today brightness and imagine what it takes -- -- -- basically follow -- this post -- products that's true if every every time -- Europe to the start let me delight poppy -- yeah.
I hate to lose this learned about that's right escalates.
Wow we always -- At least I always suspected that the National Security Agency had a pretty good idea about who was -- -- there was that there was tracking.
Because of the leak to the guardian.
London newspaper we now know that there was a specific warrant.
To a specific judge for specific compliment -- by the way connects one billion phone calls per day.
For every call domestically now Republicans are saying don't.
This so this is this sounds scary but is necessary Democrats -- nothing because they're totally freaked out to now be the party.
And spying on Americans.
What's -- -- I wanna know more -- think you're right setup that all we know about the rights.
Right but it odds are they were after horizon here T-Mobile right right they went after -- -- -- -- -- to -- -- to -- -- I I'm torn about the stuff this and I think that generally speaking.
There's a great anonymity crowds Wright amendment that idea that they're actually following -- Doesn't make sense when you're doing this meta -- stuff that's that's more scary when they.
We're targeted you know warned against you at the same time as and I came to fox they talk about the higher spending 64000 dollars it's forty fish.
The ideas that we can.
Trust government agencies to stay -- in the guard rails.
When they have this sort of sweeping power to search all our stuff.
-- Doesn't -- only apparently people very nervous.
Jonas Ali's equity Andrew McCarthy as a good peace and -- a thoughtful piece on this -- McCarthy is.
I would not -- him -- libertarian conservatives knew it.
He -- he is in two using the authority of the state get the bad guys it's very much -- former federal prosecutor him.
Frequently Ed piece that basically said.
Because of the president's.
Admit because of the failures of the administration.
At the IRS at the Department of Justice with Ben Ghazi.
The requisite confidence to give the government the broad authority it needs to combat terrorism.
Has been eroded.
That's true I that's one of the problems at the gang of -- near the opponents have him comprehensive immigration reform again because -- appetite for.
Investing trust in the government's actually run system.
That which you know overall.
Our immigration laws now with regard to what -- and I I mean I do think that.
You know you heard senator Lindsey Graham come out today and -- rice and groceries glad they're doing this.
The he happens to know that -- only she says Lindsay going after.
I think Lindsey Graham spends a lot of time investing in knowing about this stuff and I think he.
He's informed by the highest levels I would really give him credit he might do a lot of talking maybe he is listening.
I would like to say that all -- -- he makes a point he makes a point that this is only for reasons.
Suspected terrorists and now it is true that the warrant has a gag order so say we never find out.
And B there's no threshold for suspicion you -- -- he's suspected of anything.
But as you know and an American who watched what happened in Boston -- -- As seen -- increasing.
At a level of radicalization here at home which I think most Americans are pretty much still in denial about.
I think actually if they want to do a fishing expedition where their pro.
For a relatively.
Watching patterns of phone policy and said that they try to catch a -- sports life I don't know that that's about having to eat there again meant.
Yeah and way.
-- wanna because I was way behind done cobble for a long lite a -- I was able forever so we need to go to Yemen and -- -- together or we -- -- Jamaican and yet.
Awkward joke -- itself.
-- -- like -- we should be conflicting and that's actually.
Very American it's a balancing act and I think that.
It is weird that there watching everyone's calls there not yet listening and not content that we -- I think this is the entire time.
It's ever been in -- since 2006.
Only it's only it's on its endless.
Complaints in the bush era and if you remember last year.
The NSA ministers say we took more than we were supposed to be listened to more than Christmas in the blew the whistle on themselves.
We're gonna change the rules were in any congress -- government changed the rules so that we don't.
Take too much from the phone conversations Americans.
But it's this what we're seeing.
Perhaps -- remedy to that the complaint in the -- there was always targeting profiling you're singling out people for excessive scrutiny.
So is -- answer to that we're gonna give everybody a little -- Yes I think there's something.
Sort of like the thing with -- Profiling in airports right if you.
Roused a few 89 year old finish grandma's right it makes it okay to put more scrutiny noted that math thing which really stupid my highlights but.
Pins are tough that there.
-- And why.
-- I think a lot of marry and have trouble which I'm having it is why the NSA would need to know.
En El Paso.
Dog food manufacturer.
Win its phone call to.
Today Austin, Texas.
Pet store and needs -- be monitored audience and what does that have to do and I think the thing that's going to be very difficult for.
People in the know people -- -- -- and others who follows them very closely is all about.
Right there these crazy algorithms that they can use they went through the World League -- -- -- -- and outcomes you know elect.
The old dot matrix -- -- terrorist and we don't.
Very difficult thing to explain to people hand.
In the I think the real danger for conservatives here for wing nuts like me is not to be seduced.
The hypocrisy is right it is it's no thanks so much fun making fun of Obama.
And I wrote that today that's I have it is -- way where civil air libertarian outburst going just to impede future presidents -- answers now.
No I think is going to -- hard look at the Republican the collective Republican bottom has now been -- By this and abuse of power and that's the growing movement that the only growth sector in the Republican Party right now is really -- the government.
That's the only thing that is cooking off right now have a choice there and find their means this is gonna go -- -- -- That's the really awesome part oppose is that Obama who came in the most full throated supporter -- we can all do it together as -- your book ever ever go into politics right.
Is actually creating the most crazy.
Paranoid libertarian generation that we you've seen it is a wonderful event and the smoking pot in Colorado already.
-- -- Why can't -- -- that's what.
He's he's a -- after months ago on line and I signed and I think it's probably got his daughter being like he'd be America's dog well he.
And I adapt Jasper Perino is up to -- whenever.
It was got things I -- American means of course populace and this has got time he needs seasoning.
I think that that's all I know I don't agree with me in this that cuts should be so I just told him and I walked in yesterday and earlier column if I want to spend time writing me emails about -- like our guys we we stay we stand for you whatever whatever your -- Want -- just be clear about this and it completely into the -- positive at irrefutable survey.
He was named America's they actually use the NSA algorithms to come back as a writer and if you don't answer -- -- okay well we'll keep looking.
That's what his dog.
As we thank you.
And I am just told right now that in fact you guys are sticking around for the second thing.
With -- you'd like it -- Didn't get a quick break and then we'll -- this.
And that is what it looks like -- Internal Revenue Service agents pretend to be officers of the Starship Enterprise.
And this is power by and welcome back.
And I did not know that you know Goldberg was going to be -- let's start video.
When did this but it is it is apt.
That you as one who -- appreciated were starkly from time to time.
Would would be here for this discussion so it's AB Stoddard who I that never has seen a full episode -- I did when I was little but I didn't take that adults.
Interest and it really.
It starts but -- other words it with a real it has.
Hurts so good on you as.
I have -- -- -- -- conference's -- -- good good for you keep track of this populated.
Anyway time for you to take -- -- yeah.
So maybe seventy OK it's the the thing about the -- -- hearing to excoriated here experts excessive spending.
And this is like remember -- that.
Joseph blow with gold chain and apple -- in the hot tub for the TSA yes this is this is IRS's moment -- -- wasteful conference spending stuff but.
More interest and to me is with Wall Street last night where we're starting to get to a moment of critical mass on the investigation.
We have identified an -- next.
In Washington DC.
Who was basically writing the scripts for these unwilling -- is the agents are casting them that we didn't want to do this -- we are under orders to do it.
And so now has been identified an attorney in Washington was writing scripts where.
But there is still the missing piece and this is the middle manager in Cincinnati who was the go between from Washington to these agents what what's the next.
I'm I don't know -- -- It seems to me that this is one of these you know -- the White House is so desperate to spin the IDG's.
As some sort of definitive report.
As if it was a from a special prosecutor he actually had -- -- and convenient slip of the tongue on.
On this week on Sunday referring to Obama's special prosecutor.
And an audit is not an investigation to some in the in I was just on error an interpreter was referring to the two Cincinnati employees as whistle blowers.
No no no no whistleblower has been blown up and it just turns out that when you actually.
Interview people under oath without their bosses in the room.
They tend to say things that are different than what they say when their bosses and there are in the room and they aren't under.
And so it's it hit it.
Where I think this just shows is that.
A lot more people need to be interviewed under -- and -- with the you know and when they knew Witten and start and keep connecting the dots -- -- Isaac and stop with the bombastic.
Silly stuff and just keep the investigation going.
I -- be very nervous about.
And and -- -- -- we've talked about this here.
Does that -- staying here facial and sometimes it's like sometimes it's -- -- yes very good questions yes he's very effective he's a former prosecutor in South Carolina when he gets people out there whether he's right and sort of the the oh the Michael McDonald -- or whether he's doing more than 1919 black Sox scandal whatever he's doing.
He is always asking good questions.
In terms of the gestation period is now in the gestation period on -- honest -- what you exception at the beginning Hitler.
My parents meant for the people get excited during conception and then stretch marks -- the purpose if there was hit.
And there is bad then there's the gestation period.
How long does this last you think this is going to short term -- -- this are we going to be fall before we start -- Well I don't know when you know it's it's going to reach.
-- -- -- with metaphors anywhere I'm gonna say this.
It looks like it's just beginning her reaching the -- but not close to the end of the revelations.
And funny video making so I think that.
Once you have.
Has sort of points out and and it's true mr.
George's kept trying to say he's if you know an audit.
It's not only answers and so there's going to be an investigation.
Seeking all those answers to be war interviews with congressional staff and I think there's more to be revealed.
You know it is a very consuming.
It's the most politically toxic I believe all these stories of the it executive branch failures totally and then if you combine it with the fact that Americans will be so spooked by.
There -- cell phone traffic being monitored.
It's just gonna be a very long long way so once you get through.
Once you exhaust the actual scandalous -- colorful moments.
Of the of what the investigation reveals you can still go you can still spend 2014 right -- -- campaign.
For the mid term elections holding oversight hearings that have to reform act like I'm thinking it's that mean it definitely -- it's totally.
I mean as AB says this is totally AMIS and John Dickerson.
-- at CBS news -- slate and a -- keys on this yesterday.
We're basically the day we've had 8011 Democrats Cummins in these chairs and say.
Republican overreach when the Republicans -- -- on this and that person's point is something I've been making which is really hard overreach on and I are on the right right there is that there is a very high bar where when people start to feel that the IRS is being mystery.
Yeah I think that I mean I made that point.
Yesterday that I.
I am really tired of all the comparisons and actually on six when Democrats Bucs history and.
And and Brent defeatist Republicans in the midterm elections second somebody has an -- ads are 98 positive that it had -- It's not comparable you know Bill Clinton's adultery is a fair assessment why doesn't compare to the fact that you know the government's been doing all the stuff.
How -- is everyone's worst nightmare about the government run amok -- and that it just doesn't compare as as a real.
This scandal that sticks.
They promised that most -- -- does not -- that's the promise I promise made promise.
Internet is so crazy about you -- there are delighted you.
And especially as it relates to your dogs I always know always and that you -- Jonas dog in me and that's okay Ekejiuba -- don't -- -- that leaves a lot of room and that's part.
Guys we thank you for making time for us have a great day Beers which like another -- well -- probably wouldn't but I guarantee you that what's coming on the other side will entertain will delight and will amaze you -- stick around.
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That's why he was so powerful he was autonomous and that's why presidents were afraid of him and that's why he was permanent fixture in Washington where decades.
Despite being here do.
And people say -- in fact is that there are so cool shall watch the watchers.
That's the question being asked about the national security.
As we find out the -- of there looking into -- -- phone calls and stuff like that.
Let's pose that question to congressman Richard let's send of North Carolina who joins us again congressman welcome.
Chris great to be would yells overly concerned about where your -- was gonna go when you gonna back -- powerful Washington person or weird dude.
OK what however you want to roll -- -- it's it's it's news it's a new century whatever it whatever school.
The question for a few -- Republicans you know we've heard speaker Boehner and others they basically say that.
We need more information to make a decision about what's going the -- and where -- you -- Well I guess I agree because you know a lot of activities that go along with -- SA.
Weather's tracking terrorists phone calls people were talking they've known terrorists.
Some of that activity we actually frankly want to have happen.
But you know we need to make sure what was happening is what we understood what was happening there in the you know the American people deserve to know the answer that.
And so I think we need to give more information.
And I know you sort of Homeland Security means that you can you probably know more than we do.
And are allowed to tell us about all this stuff.
But it is understandable that Americans would be feeling a little bit of a crisis of confidence given.
Abuses of power that are currently in the news.
Absolutely and you know this administration.
The outrageous overreach.
Whether you look at things like.
Do you Affordable Care Act.
-- unleash IRS agents to make sure we're buying the right health insurance -- the -- the issues we've seen coming out of the RS.
You know sector health and human services shaking down businesses to get money to -- -- there's a lot of examples of overreach.
That are outrageous and frankly a lot of us are angry about.
And and and so I understand where there's going to be some distrust it was going to be some concern.
And and the American people just need to know that that -- conservatives here in congress share their concern and we're gonna get to the bottom of.
OK congressman we really appreciate it conference today sir that's been so fast -- against him.
The audience and -- -- Thanks guys.
Eric Holder remember him he's the attorney general of the United States.
And he was in it for the senate Appropriations Committee and I've got a perfect job.
But I think I've got a good job and I'm always trying to do better.
And let's ask our -- about that question about the administration trying to do better.
At not taking away your civil liberties -- it sorry about it when it happens they promise to do better in the future.
-- constant use communications director for the American action network they'd like American.
And Richard felt he is appropriately enough host of the nationally syndicated Richard -- radio show he is probable that Richard.
He is probably -- you know I mean.
OK so Richard.
President is not it's not been a great spring and summer.
Things are not this is not yet reported this this is not the ideal time with the president -- release that the NSA tracks -- but he.
Well like who -- I think that's not good time if not -- -- not good I would give them okay that's that's true.
In terms of trying to get back on the good foot resident is trying to -- military violence has gone up under his California.
They're trying to get out of this -- and it seems like every day.
The Greeks use the term at -- -- when it's like it's the reverse Midas touch.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Are really making mountain out of an ant hill here I want to keep going up the IRS -- -- -- -- in -- there's really nothing for them to really go -- on and so I think that you -- -- it -- -- -- Of course you just -- -- that's Internet just -- just it just points.
And we are talking about man in previous segment.
-- John Dickerson from CBS it's like Ruth piece that said it's hard to overreach when the -- something as -- as the virus that's when it when it's the IRS.
It's not bill clintons -- -- tendencies.
When it's the IRS people will pretty are pretty happy to join you with the.
It's where people see incompetence they -- inefficiency -- BC political targeting and they don't want any.
You had a Wall Street Journal poll come out yesterday.
That showed 55% of Americans think that this poses real questions about the administration's honest so what is really starting to break through.
Every single day there seems like there's something more and for an administration it seemed like they had tough one things are starting time.
But that singles journal poll also shows the president -- -- still pretty high and it actually increasing.
It's okay he's he's in this he's floating in the -- bandwidth and -- Woody's.
He's which is -- that if you take the average of Obama's time in office.
That's what he's been he's been 46 to 48% bandwidth but proves that he's where he adds that he's pretty evident beyond the law also -- -- -- the question -- in -- particular Wall Street Journal and these people they talk about is a country going in the right direction the wrong direction and even though that number is below 50% it is still increasing to between the country going in the right direction.
They would the president be -- through president's job is and they are the government let me heinous yes they hate -- government -- think.
He's doing an okay job.
They think the country is the economy's improving and the countries generally moving in the right direction but they are there confidence in his government in the government.
-- looking over at -- at some point this -- are sure it's it can't you can't edit edit this this was the case with bush.
That's the case anytime you start to.
Obama may find a way to break out of this right he -- by the way he he he may be able to do -- naked bootleg on this and find a way to get around the defense.
But the whoa this is how this happens how this happens is.
Swamps the V.
First parameter of your administration.
It's swamps Eric -- it's what is it needed to get your Ashcroft -- -- Rumsfeld.
You get these people get swamped and then after awhile that outer layer breaks and -- that it goes to -- before I hear that Chris I think -- -- -- right that there is there is some clearly there is that there is some parts division between water I think what the Republicans are doing if they continue to make to this witch hunt and the fact that we might lose the immigration debate who gives him his way out.
Marco Rubio saying -- -- -- half -- -- one of the past we've got to you have that you can last courtroom where.
They are taking on water every day it is getting worse and worse the -- that's where is America Jesus and -- And Rick -- way out.
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