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Two top leaders in the Senate Intelligence Committee one Republican one Democrat now coming out in defense.
Of NN SA gathering of all your data.
Suggesting the policy of collecting phone records and web sites is just way to protect the country let's.
That people are trying to get to us at its affairs this half before.
It happens it's called protecting America.
Twelve former mayor of New York City Rudy Giuliani knows all about this topic with me in studio good morning to you good morning what's your view on this well.
I don't have enough -- to really know for sure but I'm not gonna jump on the bandwagon -- just attack on.
There's a sort of instinct to do that because actually they deserve it rolled back -- they've done.
This comes in the wake of the I -- doing absolutely.
Terrible things put targeting people that Obama didn't like.
It looks like the Justice Department was doing was doing this was doing the same thing.
The end up with this whole thing -- -- and fox -- -- -- Crazy subpoenas will record your mind one on top of the other you sit back and do we expect me to trust the government all but my information -- -- I'll watch it all this stuff that is exactly the problem.
But he is he is here is the reality.
We don't want to throw the baby with the -- war.
This is something we all want -- meaning conservative Republicans meaning we wanted to government that had an aggressive program for trying to find terrorists but the question is.
It has -- been done carefully.
Are they just getting.
Business records are they just look in -- phone numbers and phone calls.
They'll -- of two to a phone calls themselves.
But the listener composition of -- they say that they say they're not well do we really know.
And I and I trust.
Senator Feinstein -- senator Chambliss and Mike Rogers and then there -- if watching them say this is okay makes me feel little better.
Because they're pretty -- careful and the -- -- tough so you think they're being judicious about it this is from march of this year this is our Director of National Intelligence.
A James clapper was asked about the us in a hearing on the hill -- Does the NSA collecting any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans are.
-- -- It does not.
There are cases where they could in inadvertently.
Collect but not not winning when was that was three months ago we have our message that this is a typical Obama administration it just did he know what -- -- -- -- -- Not wittingly and other -- it is possible.
Two for the government to give out hundreds of millions of records and he would know about it and especially scary.
So this is part of what the Obama administration keeps doing.
Whatever the problem is this may mean.
I'm I'm not sure this is a problem -- -- I'd have to see the affidavit and have to see what the court decided.
Most of which you can't get -- -- class of but and -- clapper goes on and does that now he makes the conspiracy -- start to have some some sense to not wittingly.
How could how could it happen it either happened or didn't happen if they can prove that this system stops terrorism.
I think everyone in America -- -- all right man go for you know and Mike Rogers said we have stopped one.
He did not give specifics but -- -- this plan out and you talk that'll be up and running in October of this year.
This is massive.
It's five times the size of the US capitol building question if they use the excuse in 2013 of -- looking -- terrorists.
What are they did say 2020 -- the other problem we have here bill is Obama's.
This is totally hypocritical for Obama.
If if bush was doing this is about Mitt Romney following.
George Bush was doing this to be one thing.
The Obama ran against all this -- if he also ended the war on terror a couple -- Callista in my -- right war on terror is over.
So the war on terrorism over Africa it if we don't have much of a threat anymore and that we're -- up our surveillance of American citizens.
The incompetence of this administration.
It's really impossible to really catalog and describe.
And it was sort of like I clapper go out -- -- not wittingly.
-- supposed to be in charge of all this and you begin to fear well maybe they made a big mistake maybe they overreached.
I don't know the answer to it yet I do know over the years through democratic and Republican administrations defies according service really really well.
And through democratic and Republican administrations of justice from has been very careful about this a lot of complaints were very careful about.
Do they go overboard here under Obama they did go overboard with the IRS they -- gold border pursuing reporters.
Man I mean the conclusion they went overboard here is almost inescapable James Sensenbrenner I should actually just -- back I understand and you and your being very careful about your wording here perhaps they are being judicious as you.
Have tried to do explain to us sensenbrenner just told us thirty minutes ago this was a dragnet.
That the law states that you have to have relevant information -- there and it has to be suspicious.
-- you're collecting data on a hundred million Americans.
By way of assistants that would be addressed -- we're working on leaks and we don't have the papers in the -- I'm hoping they did this in accordance with the law.
They have in the past and every expert I've had with the donor records with the war.
In the past they've been very careful and unfortunately Obama administration has broken down trust.
In very very serious ways so now that trust doesn't extend here so we may lose a tool against terrorism because this president.
Have either been so incompetent or hasn't careful about Philly just good to have you on thank you mayor more to come -- integrity Giuliani are.
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