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-- talk about there are some escalating scandals and some very contentious issues over.
Surveillance of Americans but first let's begin with some.
New information that Fox News has learned concerning the -- arrests -- just win folks in Washington.
About the targeting of conservative groups apparently he misfired.
Alerted folks in Washington and in July of 2010.
Now apparently if you do your math that's a full year -- war.
The folks in Washington in the IRS said they knew anything about it joining us now to talk about it.
Chief congressional correspondent Mike Emanuel live on Capitol Hill and Mike every.
That's right -- as you know as an attorney.
A lot of what's going on is going on behind closed doors.
Interviews with the IRS figures.
Under -- Away from the cameras.
Getting out what went want what went on at the IRS and we know from sources that that's where this information came from that they misfired an email.
And -- all of a sudden a lot more people in Washington knew what was going on.
In the Cincinnati office when -- -- to targeting officials.
Congressman -- -- a former federal prosecutor says what's going on behind closed doors is vital he says the fact that nobody stepped up to stop this bad behavior.
-- say it's systemic it's cultural.
It is it's a character issue it cannot be fixed -- -- recommendation from the inspector general or more training.
That you you you can't.
If you don't know that this is wrong while you're doing it while you're approving it while you're flying to -- if you do not know.
That this is wrong then you don't need to work for the people.
Gabby tells -- the replay more congressional hearings but more importantly perhaps there'll be plenty more interviews under -- Attorneys behind closed doors right -- gonna roll I mean -- -- somebody actually getting it hired over the targeting and conservative groups might.
Well right -- we've got -- -- who is.
On a tax Payer funded vacation essentially she refused to resign.
So a lot people are asking that one is somebody actually gonna get fired it's an issue the congressman Jason Jason shape it's from -- top brought up with the new acting IRS commissioner.
What does it take to actually get fired at one of these organizations.
They have people who.
You say accountable accountable accountable the speaker wants to -- when somebody's going to jail important question.
And I think you know this committee is asking for recommendations on how we can improve.
The IRS part of that improvement -- had a we improve timeliness of accountability.
This is one of the questions that we can surfaced in terms of looking at our personnel -- our personal rules.
And determining are they sufficient to meet the country's needs.
In terms of when something goes wrong who's held accountable I am certainly open to discussing that with this committee and others.
Daniel -- -- is saying that he will hold people accountable he's only about two weeks into the job and so at this point lawmakers are being patient with him but.
As you've heard a lot of constituents are saying when somebody going to be fired in self.
They won't be patient forever right now they want although in LA I kind of like the idea senator Ted Cruz -- said fire everybody we we should abolish.
Didn't BI arrests.
And reform the tax code make it smaller simpler so very -- you just need a few people and in new agency to do the tax collection the chances of that happening.
Are about the same chances of my being -- the United States that's a big fat game.
Mike Emanuel on Capitol Hill.
Mike thanks for him -- I've.
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