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To all of this very closely he joins me from Park City it's all where has been host you have rather -- usual summit among the participants.
At this event Chris Christie the governor of New Jersey read Paul Paul Ryan.
Meg Whitman of course Hewlett-Packard fame ran for California governor David Axelrod and and a masterminded the campaign.
And that well I guess -- mr.
Romney a former governor not a president.
Governor good to have you thanks for coming.
Thanks Neil good to be with you today by the way that cast of characters reads like the Barroom scene at Star Wars.
-- a -- got a mouth.
Did you get a smaller one plays a one time.
Well I wanted to bring together people actually from both sides of the aisle and people within each party that had different views about the priorities that they think that -- -- to be pursuing.
Hear from them so that we can now as a group listen to them and say it but what are the highest priorities and that ask ourselves.
Are we actually addressing the highest priorities are not and the answer turned out to be not a surprise.
The priorities Republicans were concerned about the priorities Democrats were concerned about are not being addressed and instead Washington is being.
Pulled of a lot of different directions but not doing what has to be done.
To get Americans -- work in good jobs with better pay and to secure brighter future for our kids.
How did you get David Axelrod to -- Well you know -- I asked David Axelrod the governor of Colorado John Hickenlooper a Democrat as well the mayor of Los Angeles Democrat mayor Stockton California Democrat asked them to come and they were.
A gracious and willing to come and express their views and they were warmly received even though we disagree pretty vehemently on policy.
That that the funny thing -- You know we're all Americans we all care about the country.
We get along on a personal basis I think it's helpful to have the kind of dialogue that that looks for common ground and look for common vision for the future.
Did David Axelrod overview or -- -- others that are mentioned all of these percolating scandals governor because now.
It appears out of control.
Well we didn't spend a lot of time talking about what Washington is feeling right now all of these scandals and there.
There are some that are very very disconcerting and where we know there's been -- the iris -- -- one of those.
There are other issues that have been.
The brought to the for such as the NSA monitoring the various.
Data exchanges and so forth.
That raise questions but are not necessarily wrong doing and we have to separate those and look into them.
That the president's ability to manage that big the government the United States.
And that and the trust that Americans have for our government has been very seriously eroded by.
That the -- -- revelations that -- come forward about the IRS.
Now the president you might have heard today sir had said that these privacy tradeoffs are relatively modest -- words this is not Big Brother.
What do you think about.
Well congress shall take a look the investigating committees we'll see what's been done the president is saying look no one's reading emails no one's listening in on phone calls.
If that's the case why you know that then these he's going to be pretty much a given a pass.
On the other hand if that's not the case people will say look that's a violation of constitutional principles.
But we don't know exactly where that is but -- like I have to tell you this I'm not gonna jump on the bandwagon bandwagon of attack in the president and everything that's going on in Washington.
He has a responsibility to care for the safety and security of this country and our people.
-- and and the practice of gathering information looking for trends finding things that might suggest someone is gonna attack this country.
Is an important part of that presidential role.
At the same time he has a responsibility that to abide by the constitution.
And I hope he's been doing that that this is an area that will be looked into like many others but but areas we do know.
That there have been major problems of of bad decisions being made relate to the IRS and of course to Ben Ghazi.
And frankly I think the this subpoena of of media.
And reporter records and and phone calls like that's an area that's that's deserving of some real concern.
-- a lot of these.
It's having data from a lot of Internet companies and those like Google would FaceBook and apple.
To say nothing -- of ask -- Verizon and actually -- Verizon to hand over phone records.
Octane asked her.
Mid April April 16 I believe governor and that was as soon after the Boston.
Terror attacks if you were present at the time of the of those -- -- attacks would you would abdicated.
Trying to get your hands on this type of -- mentioned.
Well I I parity can't.
Respond to that without having all the information about what precisely was sought and what the purpose of it was and how it could be used.
And also looking to what the constitutional requirements are.
But but in a modern age where people are planning attacks.
Using the communications vehicles that we have including the Internet.
To look for communication that suggests impending -- so that is taking credit for things that have happened in the past so we can find the bad guys before they attack us again.
That's certainly -- responsibility which a president of the government -- a governor our government rather.
Had asked to -- So I -- you know I'm not -- just attack the president on this.
I know a lot of people my party and other parties are going to be unhappy that I'm not willing to attack him on this but I'm gonna say -- That the safety of this country comes first.
The constitution has to be followed.
I don't know that it was not followed this case and before I get real hot under the collar about about -- -- wanna learn more about what was done and how is used or.
Whether this does represent invasions of privacy governor Diane five -- said it doesn't really bother her one bit using her words every breed has had a calm down.
When and the media were dumping about whether this was over reach.
Do you think their response is justified that this wasn't a big deal everyone -- take a -- -- Well I think what people hear that their personal communications.
Are potentially being watched by government they're concerned.
And particularly when they've just come on the heels of the revelations of the IRS has been using people's most private information and used it for political purposes.
And and there's a there's a loss of of that trust in our government there's been a breach of I've really significant magnitude.
And people have a right to be very very concerned and so I don't think you just dismiss this.
At the same time you don't -- claim that someone's guilt -- that there's been a breach of the constitutional principles until you've actually seen what's been done and how it's been done.
And and that's something which show that investigation will occur let's not get -- That that the if you will the prosecution ahead of the facts let's get the facts and and see if in fact.
There's been some kind of inappropriate gathering of information.
All right because I admit -- Harry Reid -- and I've I've just about at a time when he stepped on the floor of the senate to say that he was.
Very well aware from.
Well placed source the UN -- taxes in ten years -- it was later -- was not true at all.
But it did raise the possibility.
Your tax return information or part of it.
-- It was leaked to him.
What do you think it.
Well if you get it leaked from the IRS she obviously got through -- information because.
As was pointed out when we released -- returns and actually laid out also what -- paid in taxes over a decade.
I'd paid millions and millions of dollars in taxes so at there was never a year where I didn't pay a lot of money in taxes so he was just wrong.
I don't know what his source of data was but.
But obviously as always -- your campaigns are World League Debbie we talked to -- that are sort of of course a major donor to your campaign.
He was subjected to no fewer than three agency audits he was dedicated on eats at all.
But he had to pay 8085000.
Dollars I think he was telling him he was here is -- various attorney and and accountancy.
It's just to protect -- -- Well this is a very dangerous and troubling development.
The idea that an agency that has our most personal information.
It is you know we did it get me they know how much money we make what would make it -- what kind of assets we have where all of our properties might be they know everything about -- for now.
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