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Continuing now with our lead story President Obama defended the government's data gathering operation today.
I think it's import -- recognized that.
You can't have.
A 100% security.
And also then have a 100%.
And zero inconvenience.
-- we're gonna have to make some choices.
As a society.
Joining us now to react is civil rights attorney Jennifer by Jean -- from Washington Brad Blake -- a former senior advisor to George W message ever.
This -- say -- data mining -- got you doubt -- President Obama be impeached.
-- -- Now did you not be -- but it's nice try I do not agree with him on this and I believe the pandora's box.
Was open long long ago when the Patriot Act passed and bush administration and the problem.
Is that we are still stuck back there and -- fact it's actually gotten worse and and and I have to I have to criticize.
Obama on this that he.
He campaigned that there would be that an idea that there be more transparent play more accountability and we haven't seen we haven't seen that at all -- we've seen maybe even.
Eight going down -- more.
Difficult path and we don't split.
Going on the biggest -- would have been no public debate what government and the.
That's a great thing about being a progressive liberal is that you can adopt the that practices at the right and people are OK with it because the media agrees with you.
Almost on everything so they're willing to to give you pass in this brat I'm Steve indicating former George about former president George W.
He certainly -- look at 2007 as a candidate.
A pres Obama -- Senator Obama on the Intel committee was against Patriot Act -- And then he got sworn in as president I guess what -- epiphany he was given the presidential daily brief.
That probably made his hair stand up on the back of his neck when he understood the threats that America faced -- understood that George Bush did the right thing.
By establishing a Patriot Act applies act which gave our intelligence community -- law enforcement the kind of tools that were necessary and it -- -- than putting Greg we have been attacked.
Since 2001 and the reason why is because of the tools that the intelligence community asked Doug do we have to surrender.
Some of our.
Our our rights to do that yeah we do it every day at TSA we take off -- -- we get patted down our luggage gets look at.
So if you don't have anything to hide this Americans are not being hurt by this they're being helped.
And and my friend you'd be the first one.
As a as a civil rights attorney to be arguing if there was a massive attack on America why do we connect the dots why is it pop.
Yeah I don't know that I would be making that not only would my my -- even admits is that.
The author of the Patriot Act -- we have gone too far right this is not what was contemplated what was contemplated under the Patriot Act.
When that when there's an ongoing investigation.
On the suspected terrorists that we are allowed to use any number of schools even hearing content of congress right.
This is different but you have to -- to work to do that.
She's right and you have to get a warrant to do that it's actually listening and I people's telephone poll think -- telling him.
They did the authority to do that when there is in fact eight investigation.
When there's a topple the bullying is -- -- best -- that there's harm intended on America.
You go to the -- is a court you present your case you get a warrant and you and the investigation goes -- No you know quarreling with that what -- and with as Americans is that.
-- our conversations.
And and meta data that's associated with them not the -- -- that conversations she bit down meta data had that big who are calling it.
BI agent standing outside your dorm following -- on the.
The president is that really the case but I'm they gather this information which they don't look at until they find a clue.
And then they focus they drilled down hate that phrase ought to what they fight and then that's when they start looking at things but they pretty much don't look at anything that's what -- That's what I'm gathering well listen you can a lot of information about someone's life right -- -- -- data who they're calling out where they are when they're calling that person who's receiving the -- how many times they call that person and yes it can be -- and that's what they're saying they're doing.
But this is the problem that.
Have privacy interest in that information right okay and the Patriot Act does not necessarily authorize that isn't isn't expansive view of the language I.
There is no evidence of the government abused their authority -- The government -- our authority.
-- -- -- The nonsense that the American people didn't know it's nonsense the president was elected by the people the house and the senate were elected by the people the people know through their elected represented.
That's how that works.
And want to know how many chose their targets aren't entitled to the details because if they have the detail that are Henry has the details.
-- know what -- nature.
That's what the program -- what we expect you know what just you know may not have a right to know but.
But I was yeah.
-- -- in the checks and balances in the courts there's something yeah.
We don't -- there's there's three branches of government that agreed to this basically.
A -- Right what -- yeah and -- -- so what we don't know because how it's being interpreted yeah.
And how -- paycheck can only to the Patriot Act is being interpreted and attempt to support the Supreme Court ruled that these are the proper tools that the government goes too far there's a remedy for that.
So don't act like the American people are somehow being picked on by their government because data is being mind.
To connect the dots to the people who aren't going to -- Cutler could do.
But they're they're saying I.
I -- I -- this conversation because you got -- conservatives siding with Obama in a liberal.
A conservative libertarians I think the standard law enforcement.
That's terrorists get better at their trade he's got to change yeah can I should now yeah.
Boy that's that's a tough and all right Jennifer thank you Brad banks.
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