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-- on Capitol Hill HHS secretary Kathleen -- really is defending her controversial fund raising for obamacare secretary -- is insisting she did not break the law.
The Washington Post the New York Times reported.
Last month that you were soliciting funds from the health industry.
Officials to support the implementation and enrollment in the affordable care -- -- Those -- that is -- -- that you didn't communicate.
Have any discussions with folks at the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.
For H&R block about.
Don't ask me -- -- solicited funds from anyone in the health industry and I should note that this country I've made.
A total of five phone calls a -- -- and liberal America and three of them -- to discuss the organization and suggests that entities.
Look at the organization to Johnson & Johnson.
Two ascension health.
And two Kaiser.
Part of any of those groups are regulated by your department yes all of them -- So health -- officials say they felt pressure to make donations to enroll America you response would be one -- they're just too easily pressured or that they misunderstood the conversation.
Well I can't answer what -- felt I could solicit legally solicit funds from anybody regulated by our office I chose not to do that.
But promoting a -- -- partnership you bet.
So they're all published reports that you solicited funds from the hill -- commonly -- those would be an actor that's correct.
And if there are -- reports that you solicited funds from.
Pharmaceutical companies those would be inaccurate that's -- You solution to move on from any entity that is regulated by HHS and his friends but it was always recognized from the day the president signed the bill.
That there would never be enough government funding and that there would not be enough.
If this is only a government run program so we began three years ago.
I'm humbly reach out for partners' business partners healthcare providers and hospitals not health insurance and advocacy groups disease groups and I can I get a name Republican brand name and you should we lose we did you ever discuss -- -- -- -- White House.
I have I have had discussions with people about and rural America did I discuss it was -- notion of points out liberal amounts.
Never discussed it would anyone else.
Thank country time priced giant says good evening sir tell me on -- rest what -- secretary said down to she violating laws or -- following the law.
Well I'm not a lawyer I don't know that you violated any laws yet but I do know that the White House the administration story changes day after day after day remember at the beginning.
They deny that they had any communication that secretary Sebelius communicated with -- anybody about this that was the original story in the New York Times.
And that it was two H&R block him and Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and -- -- five and and that not able to give names at this point who she talked to what you talked about.
So it's it's disconcerting and it's and it's they and it's a cycle that we see coming out of this administration.
And that is this expansion of communication this expansion of power.
And this intimidation if you will of entities that the -- -- administration regulates and that's the concern that we have.
Do you think that she's not forthcoming or do you think that she doesn't have the information that just such a massive project that they can't possibly together that quickly -- getting the answers.
Well I'll let folks make their own conclusion I don't think she is forthcoming if you listen that they -- -- into my first question there.
I didn't say -- in that first sentence and so she said no when it back I said did you communicate with.
This is not an administration that has been transparent -- this is going to be the most accountable and transparent administration.
Certainly hasn't been that and clearly the secretary of health and human services continues this process continues this mode.
-- found and obfuscate.
Especially to communicate with congress.
That what's -- next step.
-- the next step is to and through the energy and commerce committee go through and find out.
Where these communications -- who'd they go to court -- -- contact.
Kaiser who -- they contact.
In J&J it would make contact in ascension or those conversations about -- those individuals to talk about what the communication was what they thought was going on.
Did they think they were being solicited.
Did they think that they were being extorted did they think that there there are supposed to be some action that was understood by the administration.
About the Affordable Care Act and enroll America who ought to be contributing -- to that it's just a tangled tangled web and we've got to get to the bottom of it because this our health care.
The American people's health care and it really looks it is it's a very sordid affair at this point.
Well early in that guys are curiously never we -- -- -- Obama's whether you can solicit funds from people you regulate.
She says it's lawful Obama take a look at that but anyway that's sort of curious to -- -- thank you sir.
Thanks so much credit take care.