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We now know that -- the NSA collected phone records and emails as part of their surveillance program.
They also mistakenly intercepted the messages of innocent Americans including telephone calls made over satellite lines from the Middle East from our soldiers.
So with our privacy under attack and it is is all that's necessary to combat terror.
Joining us now is representative Jim brides signing of Oklahoma -- my congressman.
Good morning how are you.
And doing well so what do you think of this program let's be clear this -- been around for years this -- been going on in some form or another since September 11 and congress.
Has continued to approve this when it has come up.
For renewal so what do you think of the disclosures they were learning today.
-- I think you know this is this is an issue for our country that goes back long before even September 11 we have always had an issue in our country.
The tension between liberty and security in this goes back to our founding.
And so this isn't new but the question here is.
Does the federal government have the authority to collect phone records of Americans in America.
And -- you know the Director of National Intelligence James clapper will tell you.
That it's okay because we're not querying the data unless there is reasonable suspicion.
And you've got to remember that reasonable suspicion.
Is that a lower standard than probable cause so I think that this is a violation of the Fourth Amendment.
But but specifically.
They're collecting the data.
And that's the problem they're collecting data without probable cause and without -- warrant they're collecting it not the problem so.
I do think that that this is -- a violation of the Fourth Amendment.
And and here's what's even even you know what went.
A lot when I'm I'm starting -- I was right I just I I just hope that the congress -- and you're a member of it will seven in place.
Some sort of roadblock against misusing this information is there a plan to do that.
Well you know that in the senate Rand Paul has a piece of legislation that basically reaffirms the Fourth Amendment and requires probable cause.
And then again -- we're going back to the fact that they're collecting the information.
Without probable cause they're saying we can collect that we're just not querying it.
The issue here is in this young James clapper the Director of National Intelligence we'll tell you.
That that this program it is okay because it has oversight from the Department of Justice that's the memo I got just yesterday from the department we're talking about.
Eric Holder the same person who spied on James Rosen -- Fox News.
-- for talking about and North Korean nuclear test the same person -- who authorized the spying.
You know on the associated prosper.
Reporting on -- terrorist attack that the same person who's been held in contempt by congress.
We're not being forthcoming about fast and furious though.
So this is not the person you want overseeing the NSA's collection of information especially as it relates to phone records on American citizens.
One other thing I think is important for all Americans be concerned with.
What if the federal government.
Put a camera in your house and they said we're gonna film you.
But we're not gonna look at the film unless there's reasonable suspicion I don't think this is this is -- standard that anybody in America.
Has to be very close to what they're doing now recording every keystroke on your computer via content Jim rides on thanks so much for coming in with your perspective.
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