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The world's most powerful intelligence agencies.
And be completely free from risk because they're such powerful adversaries than that no one can meaningfully oppose them.
Com if they want to get you don't get you in time.
So will happen to Edwards noted how low can he stay holed up -- that Hong Kong hotel.
But what Casey served as the attorney general under president George W.
Bush attorney general would you go after him.
In -- New York minute what.
Because he's broken the law.
-- he's broken faith with his countryman is broken faith of our political system but he is but he did in the in the week in respect for liberty and freedom he says -- so did the rosenbergs turned over secrets to.
The Russians because they -- serve the interests of liberty and freedom in the in the in the grand scheme of things.
There are very few people who have betrayed their country who have done so.
Not cleaning intelligent and -- highly moral motives but he said he is tomorrow because in the three months he worked there he could've sold the intelligence of all Americans two Russians to China and he didn't.
Well gold star for him that's in mitigation of sentence as far as I'm concerned -- what he did is bad enough.
Did he did these prison -- and that pretty much after you left really kicked into gear I understand if I'm correct.
Prison is -- looking at the nine main servers looking at a lot of the social networking sites Microsoft FaceBook Google Yahoo! and some mothers.
Did its scope with a -- of the new NSA program.
-- to change the way you feel about the need for.
Now the scope is one thing meaning how brought something yes and I'm not gonna.
Comment and endorse the accuracy of what you just said that -- the scope is but even assuming that it is we just said it is.
Now it doesn't alarm me at all if the government is.
Blips of information and has technology available that'll pick out the two or three that are that are relevant the fact that -- Bullet happens to be one of the Brazilian that there are filtering doesn't bother me at all well would you when you look at the fact that now they're they're doing stuff on -- to allow you to get information on people eating.
-- maybe get before and the fact that a lot of people have lost faith in the government because would have with the IRS targeting specific people which I didn't think was was something we did.
The IRS has a long history of abusing information.
And the intelligence agencies to the extent they're every bit of any abuses intelligence agencies have been toward.
Gathering intelligence to defend the country to aggressively.
Not targeting people for political reasons.
One thing that we have heard is the cut the push back is we go to the -- a court.
For this we get permission for this is it to ration expiration -- in this.
But as the -- court become a rubber stamp because I understand that -- three that 33900.
Surveillance applications only eleven have been denied.
What that shows who is the government is and they were when I was there very conservative and very careful about what they went to the court for.
Because the one thing they had going for them was their credibility.
And you -- if you sacrifice thank you sacrifice everything.
-- the people in the national security division who are in a separate unit.
Our number one enormously talented number two enormously careful about what it is they go to the court -- And the fact that only eleven have been turned down also doesn't tell you how many were modified in response to question by the queen I look back at senator -- Senator Obama and he -- Michael Hayden over the coals.
He said I'm gonna vote against your nomination because essentially because of the NSA would he considers an overreach.
Hayden went on to become the CIA director after leaving national intelligence director so he ended up getting that job anyway.
What about the irony of now President Obama putting this program on steroids.
Well I don't think he's necessarily put him on steroids I think it's heat it's simply mayor and he hasn't abolished it but he's also been enormously consistent that -- -- treated.
National secrets he disclosed that we got a trove of intelligence when when bin Laden was killed and as a result learned a lot of people.
That would disclosures right from the white house of of the stocks -- of our involvement in putting the stocks that virus on the uranium.
A nuclear program.
On -- -- the prosecutor in connection with them so there's a lot of inconsistency there and just he seemed to have ended the war on -- two weeks -- -- a big speech.
He didn't end it and it takes two people and -- as far as I know we haven't gotten that Ayman Al-Zawahri hasn't signed -- that speech but neither has the next generation of al-Qaeda.
Attorney general Michael -- unique perspective into something we cannot we -- just finding out about thanks much for joining us good to see all right.
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