Also in this playlist...
This transcript is automatically generated
Good morning I'm probably -- here in New York the Packard -- Wearing a baseball cap with.
From the movie in 1998 enemy of the state the Will Smith team act in movies and in Miami we think that the Miami bureau.
The middle of months and there -- areas shown.
Fresh off a Miami Heat thrashing of the San Antonio Spurs good morning -- Good morning John I should be wearing right -- teacher.
Yeah well pat pat wanted to Wear this hat and I think it's good that he does because we've just been reading remembering the movie.
About the NSA.
Spying on Americans and this is the big political news of the -- -- Fifteen years ago showing you how the satellites -- connection how they're using all the information the latest news from the gentleman who was the whistle blower in this.
Who -- you know saying I can pull up anybody's phone calls whenever.
Today this morning on top -- look at the other numbers.
Scott rescues and who is proving that the assertion of the political class in Washington.
That the American people don't care they want security they've already given the government a pass all of that BS.
Coming from the pollsters and political consultants.
-- -- power structure.
Has turned to ashes in two days as we fly in the numbers overwhelming and we'll get to that but today.
Of the people but I don't know if you've seen it yet but he probably pretty well that we don't have that you're over 68% today and the president asserted.
The other day.
-- -- the that's the government being out of control.
In the and got out of control as a threat Q.
But on the question whether the government is loosen your conversation 60% of people this morning are being reported as saying yes they believe the government is monitoring their conversation.
So the president's credibility is not exactly stopping them.
So I think Doug 181 -- 68% of the American people think the country's out of control and don't believe the president when he says they're not listening in on phone calls.
Where are we going politically I mean -- you well credibility.
Well the credibility is in large measure job.
Gone -- there really are two issues one.
The feelings that -- quite rightly speaks of a sense of a government.
That is overreaching.
With overarching power intruding into ordinary people's lives and that's that's big issue.
But an equally big issue is the fact that the agendas dead in the water how do you promote any sort of compromise.
When the government and the president has almost.
And bottom line we're sitting in the situation.
Where I think it's going to be tougher to do what -- they on the budget immigration reform.
Certainly guns going forward.
And the president also looks like a hypocrite and patent -- I'd be -- your reactions.
To this as well having oppose privately the warrantless wiretap program George -- In 2007.
Now President Obama is sitting here having to explain justify and defend a program that's arguably much large enough.
-- that this is the thing what Obama's political standing at the moment we already know from the polls that we -- yesterday.
He's bleeding among independents first of all which would make sense Republicans alike and Democrats are sticking with them.
The independence only 29%.
Now think he's doing a good job that.
Is the beginning of some erosion but the more that comes out about the NSA.
Thank -- -- A Guantanamo the more the lack.
Looks at this guy and says he's George W.
Bush all over again this is not the guy we thought we elected and reelected.
And that threatens him from the left he's already getting -- always from the right and with independence leading him he's a much weaker figure than he was a month ago.
Doug I think you're asking the right question I think the fact is -- our politics is on the cusp of -- change.
This is no longer Democrats vs Republicans.
Independent excuse me or.
Or liberals and conservatives.
It is a country where the political class the status in the government including Obama whose hypocrisy on this issue is -- Is where they had to people outside the mainstream of the country are looking -- this going.
Not -- not and our name in the government keeps I don't know we're gonna do this all of these scandals relate the public is so far ahead.
So far ahead of where.
The public was in Watergate.
They've already made conclusions.
But the government that these things were coordinated efforts that -- we've seen him in cause -- that they are covering up and hiding the issue that hurts the president more favorable.
All of the stopped an attitude this is now this latest threat if you will the IRS thing ties metastasized -- Or call us is right into.
This issue and we're only beginning to get to these scandals.
In the politics of let's mention.
The poll that we don't have the numbers on stream music and yesterday we did have a -- we have we do have one number but I'm not that one that but this is the one.
To show you to reinforce what pat just said.
The gap between the American people and the political climate of the American people on this NSA snooping -- you know.
They oppose it by its numbers slide want you to -- -- -- -- one is an onslaught yes onslaught was sorry about song slog.
In the -- we can put it off the government collecting phone market.
26% support fifteen -- percent oppose fifteen and decide -- stay in the internals of those numbers.
People who even Democrats are -- But if you divide is Scott -- -- and his index of people who lean toward recalls mainstream America vs the political class.
Of the people in the mainstream of the country's 69.
All -- Of those people who would get up -- -- index answers.
As good as political class 71%.
In favor or in favor that is a hundred in one point margin difference.
Between people inside -- the political class in the vast of majority of Americans.
That is the new divide it is a stunning number in the tells us why on Saturday and -- -- -- -- reactions.
I -- there was a political piece which was wrong that said whole people or don't care they they have for security -- give the government isn't the government a pass on this.
That is not the case of -- we have a political beliefs.
So out of touch with the American people they do not understand the firestorm building in the country I at least I think to.
The evidence that this is seen clearly in the Republican Party they have no idea how to respond.
They don't know they should be in favor again.
-- Cancers sort of said let's just do a little more investigating figure out what's.
Bill Kristol said let's support.
The president's program but see the IRS the AP and bad guys -- is different.
There's no narrative pat my from the Republicans about what kind of a country we should have.
The Republican Party once again is proving that your appellation.
The so called stupid party is not inaccurate.
And indeed you have one party that is basically dominating the political process.
And Republicans who are just hoping that the Democrats.
Fall of their own.
Wait which so far may well be happening 022 things -- -- -- I think that Rand Paul is the one Republican with a consistent.
Libertarian type philosophy that is profiting from this and is seizing on -- with this idea of and listings and million Americans in a class action lawsuit.
And he says he'd taken away the Supreme Court so that there that is at least one Republican who is unimaginable -- up.
The you have to look at these coalitions the ACLU Rand Paul the people who were together that's why I said it's not the typical coalition the status -- -- -- the -- -- the the mop the -- -- the congressional main -- of the intelligence.
Foreign policy system whether it's Dianne Feinstein.
-- -- Rogers a Republican McCain.
These people are reacting in defense of the state.
That's noticed -- -- the problem is it is indefensible.
To most Americans as we're seeing these first polls show.
For the government to collect -- everything every -- record where they can track everything you've done.
Every Internet connection whatever 300 million people and building a senator not -- -- to how's it.
Americans don't like this -- Believe they they did the instinctively ignorance in the DNA of Americans not to support this in in the name of national security.
For those of us who come out of the democratic liberal side to remember what the FBI -- -- doing the anti war people.
-- -- civil rights demonstrations the use of government power.
It's frightening and I don't care who it is and I'll -- you another danger.
These companies that if -- Google -- Google which is so in bed with -- Obama.
Schmidt has put his company so -- bed with them politically starting a company staffing it.
And they are also involved in this if these companies are doing that they won't feel the wrath of the American people.
This is not the country will not sit still others.
They'll vote but someone's got to drive the unfair advantage -- -- rather than nickel our congressman.
The hate it's up and a British newspaper so much -- the post gets on -- -- -- the Republicans is Doug suggested my point.
The stupid the lack of strategies and also deciding which party are they -- voice the American people are these the junior government party they don't know that it's a division the bulls decide whether or not.
They become the weeks -- Right and -- on on the point of the agenda stalled IA did see this morning senator Kelly I of north New Hampshire.
Come out in favor of the immigration reform bills that she's gonna vote for voted for -- Judiciary Committee and I heard that Boehner has scheduled.
August to begin debating this in the house so the inside the beltway guys think it's business as usual -- gonna move ahead with this one.
-- believe you know.
It -- I just was gonna say I am.
I got was -- the first non sponsor of the bill -- -- -- she was -- I think that has as much to do.
With internal New Hampshire politics.
And her opposition to the backgrounds.
Hurt badly built.
Those who's been hurt badly by that.
And I think Boehner does want immigration reform and I'm fairly well convinced they're very solid majority of his caucus doesn't so.
Maybe we'll get immigration reform but right I'm less optimistic today that I.
Fifth two other things on all on video do you mention the fact of one of the authors is -- most likely he's gonna vote and it looks like he's about to jump ship right.
-- person featured an all this advertising.
By the pro immigration -- -- -- -- he's the -- and he's threatening to jump ship them.
-- -- now on the back on the NSA thing though the other battle inside the Republican Party if you saw it over the weekend is Rand Paul has come out on the libertarian anti snooping side.
And who instinctively.
Opposed -- him with John McCain.
Right away cannot and then -- little sidekick Lindsey Graham.
Have to echo that so you've got that division in the Republican Party that we've seen on many other issues -- And on the strange felt that fellows thing besides the ACLU and the libertarian -- -- -- back.
And Michael Moore together.
Opposing those -- you so they got.
You know while you can see that no we have some -- -- you know look look what's happened on the question of of the Democrats.
But the -- -- question which is twenty some points but up from 46 to 56 this is some slight to.
About whether or not you're big you government -- -- fuel or or there's a threat Q look at what's happened to Democrats.
It's a slight to and this is 75%.
Said they did they saw the government is protector it's down 47%.
Is a threat went up from 46 to 56 for every one but look at those democratic numbers that is a huge and there's.
Moment we're -- address that.
With Doug and pat and I'm John absolutely it will be right back -- -- -- Okay we're back and probably -- here in new Yorker pat the enemy of the state could tell.
Enemy of the government -- and in our Miami bureau of -- -- Wearing his Miami Heat -- unfortunately.
Five let's resume a poll number two Rasmussen poll showing this decline among Democrats who view the government's handling of individual rights.
That is erosion.
Big time that the media and they they scoffed at this stuff they say out these polls that these scandals aren't affecting -- -- What we're seeing the same kind of movement first of independent Doug should speak to this that.
The movement of independence on their job report and more most importantly and outspoken -- -- on the perception of the president being honest and straightforward.
The internal numbers or in decline comment for him.
He's down from 4527%.
In the old -- thought we could.
I don't know what your reaction Doug I think it that's the internal hemorrhaging going -- -- -- the word that that we used I think pat accurately is the presence as a typical.
And -- he hasn't gone over the edge but everything is -- and for him in the wrong direction and it starts sinking.
Where he was in the quinnipiac poll -- below.
He could be you know really in a very very serious point largely because for what you've been saying.
About vast government overreaching.
And agenda that's dead scandals.
That have more questions than answers.
Very hard for our president to deliver a message a very hard for a president to make the case that he's doing the people's business through this.
My -- of scandal and malfeasance.
So -- -- I would say.
As a hopefully sophisticated.
Poll watcher and poll taker and -- John obviously curious your reactions.
That this is a presidency that is literally in crisis.
Could well start dropping and I go back to 73 when people said -- did matter and by the summer of 74.
The -- -- a very different.
Okay here's the thing that we all lived through hat really live through we all.
Places when he -- -- the White House and got Nixon law when the transcripts of the tapes camera showing the president exploded -- leading and commenting on everything.
People -- might not the president United States is central to this stuff so not a third rate burglary if the president's involved whether.
Or the White House staff the way -- I would officials of this campaign so far they have tried right in IRS to keep it in the sense and -- -- Oval Office won't look as if we have nothing to do look.
That is -- only the the comparisons are our mind boggling.
We have will we have brought -- Lois learn girls love -- all of Lois -- -- site call.
You know instead of the Cubans being paid hush money.
By the Nixon campaign she's being paid hush money by the government she is on -- people paid leave -- she takes the Fifth Amendment by the way no -- -- not -- We have them saying.
Women like Nixon said all -- was.
It was mighty it was -- -- states all -- its knees to nobody's in Cincinnati -- generate all of this is a lie and cover up.
We have it goes we will get to the central point -- and film and -- 157.
Visits and who was he visiting.
Who was at one of those -- Stephanie Cutter the deputy director.
Of the Obama campaign now Doug what do you think that means.
I think that.
You don't have that deputy chief of staff of the campaign.
Coming to a meeting in the white house with anybody.
Much less the head of IRS.
Unless and until someone at the highest levels of the government or the highest levels of the campaign sanctions put another way.
If you're a deputy campaign manager.
You do not have freedom of action freedom of authority.
To your superiors in the government.
In the -- -- in the White House and in the campaign.
You don't just saw Sally IRS's covenant let's see how we can use them for political or.
And doesn't woods and what the what if she and I think she tried to say it was -- meeting on the implementation of Obama care.
Why would the deputy campaign manager who's based in Chicago.
Fly to Washington to be in on the -- Well that's something we need answers -- -- -- -- dancers.
-- so I mr.
Solomon and his cutter.
Find out what it was that involved a campaign and the IRS.
On obamacare -- -- BR -- obamacare but patent Java could well been planning strategists is that going.
Well for four years on -- this evening so plan strategy for the Easter egg roll.
Yeah that alertness or the other my -- is great this is a presence probably keeps minimizing things.
And I or -- saying I don't know -- when nothing ever happened.
It is but look at this thing this week of where he focuses -- in hopes his finger in the -- of the American people.
Tom dollar believes that security advisor because of targeted on him of of leaking.
As well as but the management -- -- god he would she's been running for he's headed the exits -- that's how many get them.
Part about -- who does Obama point he appoints Susan writes.
Who was either totally incompetent -- deliver.
This video these not the talking points but this special story the video story or is -- conspirator.
And then Samantha Power.
Who is well that she's got her own prompt treatment of -- he has eighteen employees.
He basically said his screw you America screw you Republicans.
And I'm going -- all these people are all gonna end up on growth eventually.
Well and he is still covering up moved -- central -- what did he do that night.
Where -- evacuees -- who invented the fairy tale about the video we better never period.
And another Watergate analogy we better brush up on the rules of executive privilege because we're going to be hearing about when.
Some committee in the house called on Roland but especially let's remember history.
Haldeman Ehrlichman dean all the people the White House had testified for the Watergate Committee.
In Iran Contra.
Poindexter and all the people DN SC had to testify if the president this assumption of some commentators left and right to -- automatically presidential.
Executive privilege don't -- is it.
-- there are other awards whether congress can oversee that if they believe the failure of congress looks quickly hit on this that.
We mention it lastly Doug you think it's time.
For the speaker to assert himself.
And create select committees separately to investigate -- asked what one committee and -- -- with another.
I do John I think the hesitancy to speaker and Republicans have.
If they're afraid of overreaching -- -- so we.
That's just because they don't have a strategy as a party they don't have a plan and -- -- frankly befuddled by what's.
Going on so I just think to have one committee -- -- doing everything.
Is both of substandard event a political mistake.
Yeah unity and yes I do in the problem is is all too scattershot start -- instances today weighs in measles is tomorrow they're license back -- another parent.
The fact is people need to know the truth.
The public has already made conclusions that are devastating the Republicans for the first time in a sense have the -- to their back.
The question how they did -- -- -- -- at all they need to do is make sure that's what they are honest investigation.
From top to bottom that gets to the question of who did what and who knew what.
And I'm telling you it is much bigger I guarantee you that anybody thinks today.
In the minute we have left guys we have since we came together two years ago this month and started.
Then campaign confidential -- political insiders.
We've all from different points of view arrived at the theory that America is headed.
Towards a new politics -- something is coming to the anti establishment.
Anti both political parties something new.
Hasn't what's happened here in the last month accelerated that.
The fuse has been -- to what I describe.
As the pre revolutionary moment the question is who will brief moment and who'll be the voice of it.
My wrong not.
Pat is right John you're right the only thing that is stopping.
Is the elite consensus in Washington.
That from the left and from the right as an identical interest which is camping down any expression of independence.
Free will centrist politics.
Anti systemic politics call it what you will but the elites want to stop it.
The people want it and sooner or later it may even be later but sooner or later it's gonna come right -- anchored a real.
-- now here's the thing this whole Natalie.
530 Fox News Channel.
Here again with you on foxnews.com.
Coefficient for me is.
New scandals will come out between now and someday I thought I swear to god we start the week that you were dealing with somebody into the we can -- -- -- is somewhat it's so much news this way as I called whack a -- continues.
Whatever pops -- -- -- -- show out of Miami probably hey have a great week.
Scandal free we hope and we'll see an excellent.
Filter by section