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Tonight for the very first time we are hearing from the source of the bombshell -- regarding the US government's unprecedented.
Ability to spy on you the American people.
Now he is 29 year old Edward Snowden a former resident of Hawaii who claims to a work as a contractor both the National Security Agency and the CIA.
Now -- is currently hiding in Hong Kong and today the White House refused to comment.
-- -- whether or not the US will seek to extradite him back to the US to face charges now.
In a moment you get here directly from the man who some consider to be a hero and others are calling a trader.
But first it's important understand exactly what top secret information the so call whistle blower revealed to the public -- -- -- -- two categories number one.
We know that it was Edwards Snowden who told the UK's guardian newspaper about this court -- the one you see there.
It permits the US government to collect the phone records of more than 100 million Verizon customers.
About includes what numbers you dialed and even when and where you dialed them.
And the second highly sensitive program to be out it is -- data mining operation that is known as prism that allows the NSA to tap into the central servers.
Of nine leading Internet companies now this is one of several classified slides obtained by the Washington Post explaining how it all works now on the left.
He -- -- list of service providers and web sites that are being targeted now those include Microsoft Google Yahoo! FaceBook.
And many others on the right side is a list of all the personal information they can be extracted.
-- that include your emails your videos -- documents and even quote special requests in other words.
Big Brother is monitoring your every move whether it be online or on the telephone.
-- as -- mentioned earlier in the individual responsible for leaking the existence of these two constitutionally.
Questionable spy programs has now come forward.
And he spoke to the guardian newspaper yesterday let's take a look.
DN -- specifically.
Targets the communications of everyone in ingests them by default.
It collects them into the system and it filters and and it analyzes them -- and measures some minutes to worsen an analyst at any time can target anyone -- -- my desk certainly have the authorities to to wiretap anyone.
From did you -- your accountant to a federal judge to even the president if -- had a personally now.
Heidi I think that the public is owed an explanation when you are subverting the power of government -- that's a fundamentally dangerous thing to democracy.
Are pretty chilling -- -- -- in my first guests guests let's talk about why this story why is this important GO.
Number one this is America and -- law abiding American citizens you have a right to privacy.
These actions by the Obama administration are clear very clear violation of the Fourth Amendment which prohibits unreasonable search and seizure.
It is our rule of law if we do not respect and honor the constitution.
Than anarchy and tyranny all their fault.
Joining me now to reaction Kentucky senator Rand Paul senator good to see -- welcome back sir.
Going to be with you John and if you if you see the president can you give him a message whether that they are always nice untimely death.
Yeah here's the -- the message for the president I'm in Philadelphia he doesn't need to look at my phone records.
I'll just go and -- know where I am tonight in case he's looking -- it and the only place they won't be able to find you is on MSNBC.
-- All right now.
Let mother has got a series quite let me see if I got this right the government -- snooping on every American watching this program every American.
And they've been resistant to say like Fort Hood is a war on terror.
They won't use the T word for terrorism but apparently they're looking up -- Tea Party.
Yeah I think these are connected in as much as they say -- watch what are your thoughts.
Well you know the first objection obviously is the bill of rights as you said really you have a right to privacy and they shouldn't be allowed to look at your records -- -- I think you've committed a crime.
But the second aspect of this is it's not a very good way to look for terrorists for example this -- -- Brothers the Boston Marathon bomber.
We knew he was a potential problem but then somebody forgot to look and find out that he had flown back to check -- out.
So we're not doing a good -- police -- we can't seem to keep up.
With the people we've been told about.
Remember the underwear bomber his dad turned him and we couldn't keep up with him he's still got on -- plane.
And yet they think somehow they're gonna go to billions of bits of information every day and I think really we have to step back and say is is good police work.
But also it isn't our right to privacy more important in this well -- would you then say it's broad sweeping.
The least effective method possible and the most intrusive on our rights.
Yeah I think the thing is is that.
Really this is what our founding fathers fought the revolution over at least one of the points is they objected to general warrants.
These -- warns that didn't specify who's going to be searched so the British soldiers could go from my house to house.
Now we're going from computer to computer not a people who are suspected of being terrorists.
Of every American they're going to a billion phone calls a day.
And from your phone records.
They can track your movements that's why was joking about John the president I'm in Philadelphia because I called my wife earlier so they conveying that.
And they'll know that I'm actually in Philadelphia tonight I -- really do we really want them tracking our whereabouts that's funny but honestly it's not that funny.
Well let's take a look and then the president as a candidate and at a lot of things to say about this that he wouldn't do this.
Let's remind people of the things that he promised.
If someone wants to know why they're -- government has decided to go.
-- -- fishing expedition through every personal record for private document through the library books that you read.
The call phone call that you may have -- emails that you sent this legislation gives people -- all rights to appeal the need for such a search.
Get a quarter ball.
When I'm president one of the first things I'm gonna do is call in my attorney general.
-- -- to him -- her I want you to review every executive order that admonition by George Bush.
Whether it relates to warrantless wiretaps or detaining people or.
Reading emails or whatever it is I want you go through every single one on one hand if they are unconstitutional -- -- -- encroaching on civil liberties unnecessarily.
We are going to overturn.
-- provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies with the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our constitution.
And our freedom we need to find a way forward to make sure that we can stop terrorists while protecting privacy.
And liberty of innocent Americans that's more common defense.
We reject as false.
The choice between our safety and our ideals.
Senator that he fulfill those -- promises.
We'll see you know this is why the American public has such a low regard for politicians it's utter frank hypocrisy.
This is also the same president who made all those grand promises who signed legislation that says that an American citizen.
Can be arrested without charge.
Indefinitely detained and sent to Guantanamo Bay but he says.
I won't ever do it I don't intend to do it but he signed -- giving himself that power so he he says a lot of good things and he sounds good.
But he doesn't really seem to mean anything that he says.
And that kind of hypocrisy is why Americans are so fed up with Washington senator the Director of National Intelligence back in March James clapper told the Senate Intelligence Committee.
That the NSA did not collect.
Data of millions of Americans -- on our air this and see if you think this is true.
Does the NSA collecting any type of data at all.
On millions or hundreds of millions of American.
-- -- It does not.
There are cases where they could in inadvertently.
Collect but not not winning one.
Senator did he tell the truth you know you.
You know what he may be parsing the truth because maybe they say oh we're not collecting it are keeping it but they're certainly looking at it because.
The court order that we see in the -- has been -- Says that all of the records for three month period from phone.
People who have -- with Verizon was look at so maybe he says -- we're not collecting it but we're sure the -- looking at it that sounds to me like we're parsing the truth.
But I think ultimately the American people have decided -- started a lawsuit.
We're asking tens of millions of Americans to join our lawsuit.
You know Iran -- dot com join this lawsuit we want you on our lawsuit Sean because they're probably -- -- your phone records for certain.
We want tens of millions of Americans -- out there and say to the president we want to say to the president.
We don't want you look at that are found records and less were accused of a crime you don't set I thought today and on -- -- by -- I was thinking if this was they keep saying this was done in the name of national security and this is so -- -- -- and broad sweeping and then efficient as we stated.
Wouldn't if they really cared about security what do they secure the border first.
It before they would spy on all these Americans.
There's all kinds of things even look back to 9/11 the twentieth hijacker we had him.
The FBI had enough for a month and they wrote seventy letters asking for a war and and it never came -- I'm -- good police work but were overly broadly looking at everyone's records are wrong way to go.
All right senator keep up the good work thanks --
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