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Stern eyes and I want to get to Richard Haas who's the president of the council of foreign relations and very much in touch.
With what's happening this region -- and how important this is Richard -- thanks for being here help our viewers understand why this is happening.
And what the next steps -- For the region and it's happening it's simply because there has been no real consolidation.
Of power Turkey.
The opposition is is we bordering.
-- -- people who felt I think essentially powerless to do to effect.
The course of today there's also -- happiness amongst the secular youth with a greater role will religion and the society.
Ever had in this incident.
This quote unquote urban planning and -- that it would have been something else but that this was this was boiling.
So where are we now Richard but by the prime minister said we're going to stop this but.
But short of going in and taking over -- square in preventing the people of any kind from coming in what what can be done here.
The prime minister really has two choices one is to try to overwhelm it would force.
I think a far wiser.
Would be to have something up -- dial.
It's a relatively small number of people so far it's not clear exactly how much of Turkey the they represent.
For if -- -- the prime minister advising the prime minister I would suggest that some sort of a political dialogue.
Would be -- war.
If he keeps escalating then the problem for him is that escalation if you will -- escalation.
And either -- make it essentially.
A fight to the finish.
A compromise he might worry would make him look -- but also would largely probably happy -- square.
He's been trying to have it both ways with this population for a long time you can make the argument that.
What you see is not always what you get when you walk around Turkey it's been explained to me -- feel like it's been westernized -- feel like the military police are gone but.
But they're not really.
And the government is always watching.
And now maybe some of the veil has come up.
I was I was just there -- here if you look but two months ago all my most recent visit the white use.
And it -- -- you feel it's it's it's a thriving.
Largely modern western oriented city but -- still realize you're in Turkey in the sport you get out of this stuff girls the more you realize you're in a much more.
You know you're -- much more traditional space and so -- always been poised to geographically.
Socially politically what have you.
Between east and west but that's the nature if you will.
-- Turkey and it's always been a question of balance.
And at a church it was a great creator modernize -- of of modern Turkey.
Clearly -- -- the ballots in a way that try to make Turkey more pro western course secular and remove.
Move but sideline Islam.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- rather than -- -- Islam he wants to bring up much more into the mainstream and if you will create a new balance or compact.
Within the within this society.
And needless to say there are those people in Turkey who.
Our core variant cover but what that even more though I think there aren't perfect who would have -- the concentration of power.
First the military which we did in order to qualify.
For the potential membership but there -- It may have been other agenda there terms that we did in the military and since then he's going after many journalists.
He's going after some independent businesses.
What we're seeing what is what appears to be demanding a week getting -- dilution.
Of the checks and balances with the Turkish society.
So what I think you're you're seeing in the square is something couple pushed back.
To what seems to be again this heavy concentration of power.
And there's even talk that if you don't want the prime minister wants -- -- -- essentially take over the process of rewriting the constitution.
Straight in the office of the presidency.
And then when he's no longer prime minister.
Prime minister to -- the office of president was far more hours -- you know.
And this is something that the people are very much aware of what one of the fire that's burning here is that -- a telecommunications struck with was brought in.
So that these young people could continue their social media -- And continue to communicate with others.
They've there'd been a -- call for a massive -- it happened on Twitter today.
A massive presidents and -- -- square.
And they showed up by the tens of thousands it's my understanding and then -- pushed back by police but they're still -- and waiting to come back as we.
Gotten to eleven minutes past the hour tonight in this table Richard before but I -- you have to go but before you do quickly who -- Eight wins dialogue -- is it your sense that it's possible to make this stop at least the because he's certainly wrist if somebody gets seriously injured or if god forbid -- number of people are killed there it's going to be much more difficult.
Well absolutely what we've learned is that throughout history.
And throughout these kinds of situations that the dynamic pick on a life of its.
And if you will of the people get hurt in the issue transcends whatever the official rallying -- was.
That it becomes police brutality in the -- -- the role of behavioral -- state apparatus.
And what then happens is that that is the demands of the opposition.
Begins to grow and the size of the opposition begins to grow.
That's why again I think that prime minister would be wise if you were to find some sort of compromise.
It's a little bit difficult because the opposition is an organized.
It's not clear what exactly their chances of that and urged Russia -- -- -- -- some of the comparisons for the Wall Street thing you're not far off.
-- never was a coherent.
Agenda all all on their part but if -- were cannibalizing airline.
I would try to figure out what it might be for example why not -- -- Urban Renewal project in the in the square right.
We might see it as a sign of weakness in the salute to do it.
But at this point that would seem to me clearly preferable.
Suppressing attacks and seeing where that would -- to.
Richard Haass from the council of foreign relations -- thanks so much were.
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