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Al -- might this iris -- ago former New Hampshire governor John Sununu joins us -- question was chief of staff we're in the White House thanks you sir good to be it.
How do the speaker Boehner says it's inconceivable that pres Obama didn't know about the targeting.
-- -- -- I think John -- is it's pretty close to being right on especially since chief of staff supposedly knew about it.
I cannot imagine a White House in which the chief of staff -- deliberately not let the president know.
About something that could have -- serious ramifications is that.
I suppose it each White House is is operational differently and -- -- experience all of the different but.
Tell me what is the Japanese chief is Geoff Sanderson -- -- when he come and you say you know this is this what you should be -- the president should you sort through what goes to know what doesn't.
The chief of staff's job is what the president wants the chief of staff's job to be -- it is different in every White House.
I can tell you in the bush White House George Herbert Walker Bush White House good.
I was chief of staff and there was nothing I knew that the president do now except maybe once or twice when.
-- wanna do it abruptly ending don't -- -- And and they caddies I guess that in terms of -- -- that obviously targeting the IRS -- something that does it really evolved we've we've seen that happen in a prior administration -- -- -- that that would be something that would.
-- red flag to achieve the stuff.
What do you you do not keep your president in the dark on something that's important.
Unless the president tells you I don't want to know about these things which makes it even worse.
The president had to have an inkling.
That's something like this was happening.
Or else he had a culture in his White House that is unacceptable and should be unacceptable to the people of America.
The president can't say don't tell me anything that's going to cause a problem.
Because the president then his -- party to a process there that's that's improper.
The president probably had an inkling he may not have known who was being told to do what.
But he pet to have an inkling that there was some political shenanigans of this -- going on.
You would not expect that he be part of it but that rather when the IRS counts -- -- -- -- that April 22 would be that the timeline where you would think that he might become aware at that point I think when the chief of staff and the -- -- -- the president should have gotten and then about the same time.
How did woody adding certain measure what's your sense of the American people's view of trust -- -- a lot of things went out with the IRS we had and testing went before congress that -- investors knew nothing NSA revelation -- what you thought.
You know it it it is surprising to me how quickly some of the folks that that I will called the traditional indifference.
Had traditionally in different -- these kinds of things are now talking about them back home.
And and I think this president is underestimating.
The fact that the seeds have been laid for real.
Distrust of of the presidency and this executive branch.
In the minds of the American people I think it's a big problem you know you at a -- up.
And you see an administration that is willing to expanding the role of government.
And allow government to do things that Americans traditionally have thought were unconstitutional.
I like he's not gonna run again -- in his second term so how does it manifest itself in what is the real harm other than he walks -- the legacy perhaps that there is an appealing it creates distrust in government.
And then what.
And and then what you have is is a a populace that loses faith in -- system.
And when they lose faith and its system they really stop worrying about trying to improve it.
And and this country has big problems and it needs to be improved with the help and support.
Of the public -- something.
Governor thank you I -- -- -- so I'm good to be here.
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