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Our nation's top secrets are in the hands of thousands and thousands of contractors why -- government trust in them -- secrets about you.
Today -- firm Booz Allen Hamilton firing Edward Stone for leaking tons of crucial information former CIA director.
-- James Woolsey is also a former Booz Allen vice president Joyce I see is second to figure out so why do we have so many contracts why -- we didn't -- while in this internally.
I suppose part of the reason is -- congress passes laws requiring lots of things to be done and then they don't authorize enough people in the civil service to do it.
And those slots are filled up -- contractor people and I gotta say that it's not always the civil servants.
Who are the more trustworthy.
We captured a man name Aldrich Ames.
Well -- I was the director.
Espy terrible spot and he was not a contractor and we captured -- here a couple years later.
Robert Hanssen FBI agent who was a terrible spot.
So it's a quality individuals in the preparation in the schooling and so forth I think more than whether or not they're contractors or or members of the -- civil service.
Is there anything I personally am for a limited amount -- data access to the sentencing to -- about the about snowed in terms -- he was -- with Booz -- three months before that he'd -- of the contract before they've -- with the CIA anything and you show but his -- I don't do nothing and -- no idea.
Nothing at all.
I don't know how what happens when someone gets SA security -- album and and works like a Booz Allen for about ten years at least Booz Allen -- security clearance.
-- depends on whether or not it's transferred to a new place if you believe one contractor and -- the other -- you're working on intelligence matters.
And you can keep your -- updated that you don't lose it but if you.
Just quit are you go off to do something else.
I think -- relatively short order your clearances slipped.
The -- down according to what I've -- which now by the Carlyle group does most of its business and government contracts.
The devil may I I haven't been it was six years what the numbers that have been important is that -- about 2425000.
Employees and about 75% of them have security clearance -- -- like a lot of security clearance was outsourced.
I don't know.
Possible I haven't gone into them.
-- Clarence processor had anything to do lose half and really for six years any any sort of thought about how damaging in the elite Guinness.
Well I think it's.
Very damaging because it -- terrorists an idea of how we can collect and what we might know.
And you can't just inform the American people you're informing the terrorists when you play something like like that out.
It's really kind of the function what what what's known as done.
Is kind of the functional equivalent of what stimson a secretary of state did in -- late twenties C.
Who stopped all the state department's code breaking of other countries who position gentlemen don't read one another's mail.
He was probably pretty glad that the US navy was not being gentlemanly with respect to Japanese codes because otherwise that we not a lost the battle of midway.
And when you make a decision -- -- did.
That you're gonna take the place of the president and the congress and the judges that are on the -- support.
And you're the one who's gonna decide the balance is the president put it between security and and privacy.
You are undertaking an action that could very well get people killed and I suppose so -- doesn't care or just doesn't think about it.
-- do you think it's good to have people who are terrorists that they wouldn't realize that we I guess as I mentioned to me television shows -- if I would have thought that they would have.
Not one used telephones anywhere the Internet that they would have been wise -- that wised up to that one by now.
Well people can be careless.
And -- you know we've.
We have had programs for decades.
In which the government has access to and keeps records.
On what's on the outside of the envelope it's called I think it's called a -- -- some kind of mail system.
But that's been sanctioned by the supreme court for decades so we've been doing with first class mail for decades what we're now dealing with this new program -- monitor plot more than -- mail program and -- Every piece of the it whenever they want.
-- there's an authority it's the -- registration program or something like that is Alan Dershowitz had a small piece about -- -- -- Wall Street Journal that -- but this is a tough quotas is everybody was the mail system everybody pretty much people who communicated to learn to communicate and that's what they did they wrote letters and ancient times.
And so you know we have had a system for decades and we have one now but it's much better supervised -- anything was under the post office in the -- -- Supervised by the court supervised.
Hearings before congressional committees and the rest.
And what they have and I think this this bears on Jim clapper says statement.
What they have is is is not.
And that they have data of some sort it's what's on the exterior of the communications.
But they don't have contact I think clapper statement would have been more accurate if Peter said we have data the -- -- and so forth but we don't have.
Context is that if you if you visit -- you know they call the hotline a suicide hotline that yellow content.
Well I think by implication maybe your typewriter and you dislike it -- I don't know since LA that have been something to -- but anyway and people who a lot of them and they didn't hit nice to see as their eyes nice -- ANC -- and it.