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-- like this spotlight for a few moments yeah he got his fifteen minutes of fame that's for sure announced a different story -- world's most -- -- speaking -- for the first time since he went into hiding in Hong -- so we're hearing from -- -- not exactly seeing him yet.
We're glad -- this everybody I'm generally and I'm John Scott Edwards -- Keeping out of sight in a secret location he says but -- Hong Kong newspaper has an exclusive interview.
Snowden talking to a reporter -- reporter for the south China post in the morning post saying he plans to fight any attempt at extradition by the US government.
In Thursday's edition he reveals more explosive details on US surveillance targets his plans for the immediate future.
Steps he claims the US has taken since he started revealing NSA secrets.
And his fears for his family.
He also tells the paper I'm neither trader nor hero I'm an American.
Snowden has good reason to -- severe consequences with prosecutors likely to make an example of it.
Before -- Texas congressman Ron Paul is saying he fears mr.
-- space could be worse listen.
Body in our government right kill him with a bit -- -- but with that cruise missile or but threatened at all.
I mean we live in a bad time where.
American citizens don't even have rights and that they can be killed.
They didn't -- -- he's trying to tell the truth about what's going on.
Meanwhile a four star general finds himself in the eye of the storm about national secrets and widespread surveillance.
Army general Keith Alexander -- director of the National Security Agency and head of the US cyber security command.
You appear today before a senate hearing marking the first time an official for the NSA appears in public since the secrets leaked out.
Senators will want to know more about the extent of surveillance programs and what is being done to prevent another damaging leak of highly classified secrets.
Charlie hurt is a columnist for The Washington Times Charlie as all of this is boiling in Washington where is the president what are we hearing from him about the.
While the president is is struggling to kind of stay on message and and to keep talking about.
The issues that -- that he wants to talk about in terms of immigration and and things of that nature.
Obviously today he's -- currently in the process of hitting three big fund raising.
Stops trying to to kind of if feed the machine -- to keep -- you keep the political.
Conversation as far away from from this as he can he's tried to sort of downplay it last week.
He's and he said things like you know -- that this is an important.
Conversation to have -- -- -- quickly changes subject and and tried it kind of talk about other things but it's a bad situation for him and and this is very much the fight.
That we we saw on the right between sort of the security.
A debate that is -- the right down the middle for years now.
And and it's it's landed right in the lap of of the left with President Obama.
And you know -- that the leaker Edwards Snowden.
Was a big Obama supporter and he believed what -- Obama the promises he made during the campaign and then became disaffected disaffected with them.
-- realizing he didn't you know those are just campaign promises.
And so and so that was that was the stated reason he's given us for why he's.
Come out with all the stuff but I think that's reflective of a lot of the democratic base a lot of the left.
That that who tends to -- -- there that absolutely supports President Obama.
Tends to support Democrats but they're very concerned about all of this and and I think we're likely to see at some point we're gonna see told.
Taken on on Democrats at the polls.
I'm trying to figure out how I feel about all this and maybe -- a lot of Americans are wondering the same thing I mean you know I on on.
On its surface I don't guess I care that the inner -- in that the government knows.
You know which enters the net sites I've gone too because I'm not building bombs.
Anymore that I you know care when I walk out -- outside our offices I'm on new York city police surveillance cameras.
Because I know that I'm not gonna be robbing stores in the diamond district.
But -- I think when you when you find out that this lean on the tea tax collecting agency of this same government.
Is subjecting people in groups to extra scrutiny and -- groups just happened to be the political opposites on the president.
It leaves me wondering whether I want that government knowing a lot about what I think and where I go.
I think you have put your finger right on the on the harder to John there's you know the whole issue here is here we're free country.
We would we obviously want to be free.
From from terrorism but we also believe in in freedom you know -- in our own personal freedoms and so it is a difficult task.
But but what but what I think it what I don't think is is it unreasonable is to expect the government to expect President Obama.
Expect NSA officials to be able to make the argument publicly.
Why this program is so vital.
To thwarting terrorist attacks that it cannot be scrapped if they can't make that that argument then then it's -- then you have a real problem that he can't make that argument publicly.
Then then then that's a real failure.
But but you can put your finger right on it the real problem here is all these other scandals that we've been talking about for the past month month and a half.
Had set the stage where you know this administration has lost a lot of credibility going into this fight -- going here or should I should say going into this debate when you have.
You have Vladimir Putin's.
Lecturing the that our president the American president on on privacy and you have Germany.
Rebuking America for for for this program.
It's suggesting that that that there is that it's like to get stop all.
That's that that that's terrifying though but I think it's -- with the backdrop of which you just mentioned.
The world has been turned on its head in some respects perhaps it'll being mile left up the general Alexander.
To do -- what you're talking about and defend these programs today in front of congress we'll certainly be watching live Charlie hurt from The Washington Times thank you.
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