Power Play 6/12/2013
Obama tries to regain footing. National issues at play in Massachusetts Senate showdown. Plus - the latest immigration hurdles.
Jun 12, 2013
Ed Henry, Loretta Lepore, Chuck Rocha
Obama tries to regain footing. National issues at play in Massachusetts Senate showdown. Plus - the latest immigration hurdles.
Jun 12, 2013
Ed Henry, Loretta Lepore, Chuck Rocha
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That is country music legend Hank snow who famously -- I'm moving on.
And this is power plant I -- Chris -- -- We are not talking about -- big -- -- rolling down the track we are back talking about whether President Obama is able to move on.
From V blows currently accepting his administration and a number of fronts as he tries to get back on the good foot.
-- -- -- -- -- Where he's gonna stump for Ed Markey who wants to -- in the United States and it.
He's going to keep pushing a host of issues will he be able to do that we will discuss.
We will also discuss.
-- lurching hurly burly that is the immigration.
Legislation in the United States department that we'll talk about.
What's going to happen in that senate race we're gonna talk about that security stuff will do at all.
We will do at all you know why is lacking in enough and you know who you can't get enough that's right.
That's -- Fox News chief White House correspondent Ed Henry for the -- welcome to the Internet.
Thank you I can't get enough of -- early -- especially when your time.
Well exactly that was but that was a long time ago that was a long time.
It's a different time now.
And so here's here's a question.
Stop by the -- it popped in on some print reporters yesterday.
Where he stopped in to say hey guys and Peter Baker of the -- -- times among them.
Are able to talk about what they talked about.
But have been able to to some did some degree characterize.
What went on in the general sense is that the president is trying to emphasize that he is still remain in motion.
And still look at you and stuff despite all of these things that are plaguing his team.
That's what's fascinating it was a meeting that apparently was called.
Among print reporters to be with be relatively new chief of staff Denis McDonough around here which I should note it's getting a little bit of attention but.
As you know these -- things happen on Capitol Hill at the Pentagon the white house of there's a new chief of staff.
They wanna meet people they also -- moves and let's face it they wanna stay in the media little bit on what their -- -- -- -- in this case a Denis McDonough wanted to make clear.
From my sense in talking to people around here that.
The president's not mired in all these controversies and scandals that the media's talking about with a -- -- godsey the NSA story that he is that you say.
Moving ahead on immigration reform and a budget deal and all these other.
A great things that that he wants to push.
And this story from -- -- others is suggesting that President Obama sort of made a surprise appearance in Denis McDonough is office when he was -- -- happy hour.
With print reporters what's significant about that.
Is it suggests that the president is trying to shape the stories -- these -- reporters and other journalists like myself around here are doing and say look in private not public.
Guys don't focus on those candles instead focus on how on trying to get my legislative agenda done but the bottom line is when you're pushing that hard privately.
To shape people's stories suggest that maybe your little more nervous than you're letting on publicly about how these controversies are overshadowing things -- I think people need to remember.
-- Chris that if you go back the president's inaugural address will just a few months ago he was on top of the world is seemingly it is just reelected by a wide margin over Mitt Romney.
Yeah he had the bully pulpit that inaugural -- very aggressive on gay rights.
Climate change you name it and and since then he's got basically nothing done on Capitol Hill no grand bargain budget deal.
No gun control that he push for.
No immigration reform yet but as you suggest there is a glimmer of hope for the president and the gang of eight which wrote the bill.
Glimmer of hope for them that that that they may get a deal that the Republicans on the hill -- Clinton credit for but that this president and -- credit -- -- When and it.
Two to drill down on the question of the access in the press and how president -- press.
As you point out it is unusual.
It is a practice that in in days of you or was fairly common for the president -- -- ball sessions with reporters.
This is this has not been the norm for this president act do you suspect.
That you will see an opening up.
In terms of media availability.
And interviews and things like that.
For this administration as they try to get a new narrative started.
The -- -- so it's hard to tell because they've gone through these fits and starts where they'll do a slew of interviews and then they'll pull back in there that pullback mode right now.
I think for a number of reasons that you put the president in front of the TV camera.
For an interview right now he's gonna get hit on the NSA he's gonna get hit on the IRS it's gonna get questions about a lot of these controversies.
-- -- right that I would anticipate.
A couple of weeks from algae I think this -- this private thing.
A shmoozing reporters is sort of a little flag out their little flare maybe that says he's starting to try to pivot if you will.
And say look don't -- of those countries is focused on what I wanna get done in my remaining -- before become a lame duck and so I wouldn't be surprised if there's a friendly.
-- -- to down the pike where the president gets to do that in front of a TV camera not just privately to say.
I don't know what the Republicans on the go to battle it paralyzes -- But I wanna bring a budget deal and I -- to do this I mean look that's what Bill Clinton did during Monica Lewinsky and that's what George W.
Bush tried to do when he was mired in in Iraq and other things are hurting his credibility.
-- so I don't I certainly I think you're right I think.
That is schmooze -- behind closed doors is probably a barometer of something coming down the pike where publicly he's gonna try to.
Sort of turn the page all this and let's note that today you mentioned he's.
He's campaigning for Ed Markey of Massachusetts.
The last time he did that in a special election after Senator Kennedy passed away.
It worked out so well backfired on him and Martha Coakley the democratic candidate they lost that race it it was kind of a blow to the president earlier you know his first term.
This is important for them right now Ed Markey is somebody -- Massachusetts big democratic state.
It's now a single digit lead that had -- yet -- that tight race and so we're gonna get an early measure here with a special election coming up.
As -- the president's clout in his second term.
And whether or not some of these controversies admired him to the point that he can't even deliver a senate victory in a democratic state like masters of course he's going to help.
-- -- before you -- our entire second segment you know off target audience and on the bone for the Internet.
But the the question is.
For the president -- about this -- -- -- Is that.
We have not reached the point in this is becoming this this cycle we see -- second term Fletcher asked the election and you have a clause.
-- -- -- reelection to unify people.
On -- -- side.
You just have this litany of complaints from the civil libertarians from the women's rights groups from people concerned about Syria.
And it goes on and on and on are we seeing a fracturing the.
I think he's facing pressure from the left that would add one more to the mix that you dispatch in -- -- in the third segment is maybe gonna tell us hopefully -- let -- go for.
-- it was only about a week ago let's not forget.
That the first lady of the United States had an extraordinary exchange with the gay rights activist who basically said going back to the inaugural address I mentioned.
First president back in January to ever use the word gay in inaugural address it was a president who said look in the second term.
Are going to be pushing gay rights.
And here was the First Lady confronted at a fund raiser here in DC behind closed doors by a woman -- figured -- -- enough -- the president signing executive order.
-- to -- just more like -- gay rights.
And so he is facing pressure from the left on gay rights some of the social issues but also on the NSA issue.
The -- allowed his voice is beating up on the president about.
About the surveillance not not Republicans.
It's Democrats like Ron Wyden who really holding James clapper speak to the -- -- him.
And now bush has -- -- Gallup approval rating and Obama's you know we -- truly through the looking glass.
Thank you very much for making great today and enjoy a sweltering north long it's a little -- good to see if an -- season.
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Is to have been fighting the Tea Party Republicans -- -- come to Washington to make sure government doesn't work that's been my job.
These people -- rides.
Committed to making sure that president Obama's agenda doesn't move at all.
And that was Ed Markey.
He was in a debate.
With Gabriel Gomez now at -- Republican.
Congressman from Massachusetts who very much would like to take the seat formerly occupied by John F Kerry in the United States senate.
This is power -- now that debate.
Took place Springfield public television.
And we thank them for the opportunity to hear it with you but this race of course.
Include national issues and has itself become a national issues we talked about that and write the president is heading up there to go stump -- -- in a race that is either.
Just outside of the margin of error or if your fund raising for Ed Markey dangerously close.
What about that race what about now US senate etc.
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Greta let's start with you.
This race president's going up there the race is pretty close last night's debate was theory contentious.
And you heard there that opening sound.
You heard Ed Markey basically say.
You need to reelect me.
Four -- you need to elect mean keep the seat in democratic hands -- the Tea Party.
Is going to have its way -- -- real president is this approach likely to work in Massachusetts.
I don't know it's an interesting -- -- he took and that his opponent mr.
Gomez is running a very moderate campaign.
You know obviously you know Massachusetts as a democratic.
Not even remotely.
Purple by any stretch and so it seems -- hit it seems interesting that he he took on the Tea Party.
-- cut it kind of goes to speak to the fact that he's feeling threatens.
I think -- posture indicates that he feels somewhat threatened.
At and I thought it was interesting that he accuses the Tea Party.
-- being an obstacle to the president's agenda clearly their jet agendas do not -- But he accused them being an obstacle -- he in the same debate indicated that he was gonna draw lines in the sand when it came to tax reform.
And there -- issues that he clearly would discuss and that we're totally off the table for -- So in some ways he was somewhat disingenuous.
Seems a little frustrated seems a little tired.
And it's going to be a -- two weeks for him now.
Chug its obvious that he would like however moderate Gabriel Gomez -- It's it will be necessary for mr.
Markey to say well he may tell you these moderate.
But the reality is he is it dangerous radical right wing conservative hiding him in moderate guys.
Right now the democratic base is not -- real -- -- patter over the president right.
Been down this path before yes -- Martha Coakley yeah.
And so well.
That's burned into a lot of Democrats we don't forget that intact and that we don't need to keep the progress.
I think that mr.
-- do what he has to do to appeal to a lot of people in -- state who don't normally vote for Republicans but the turnout will be solo.
And what we learned last time if we can't take anything for -- I think -- -- -- the president the vice president.
Everything's on the table.
So I think that we got to make sure that turnout -- Little bit later -- Obama campaign for Martha Coakley and she lost right to my right there.
Yes and that -- I mean I don't think that the president right now is bringing a lot of cachet to the table for congressman Markey.
I mean that the president's bring candidly a lot of baggage.
-- and congressman Markey has been in congress for over thirty years let's not forget that.
So it's not as though he can inoculate himself for some from some of the things that have transpired recently congress' ratings are at you know 6%.
And so he he has his own -- in favor -- -- ability issues and then -- you combine that with what's -- with the president right now.
And he's got some serious credibility issues.
And so I don't know that this that this is going to necessarily.
Boost congressman Markey is poll numbers.
And I think that mr.
Gomez has an opportunity here.
-- we'll see how he kind of addresses.
What transpires and the president's remarks there in Massachusetts.
Now -- you've worked a special election over the years.
Now if you're basically what you get in a special election is the most concentrated form of the electorate inning giving district Thursday.
If you have.
For example if you were doing a special election in West Virginia.
You know that you can count on union members especially the teachers' unions and others that I'm -- retirees.
That that you -- they were they were money in the bank to a certain degree compared to swing voters.
In Massachusetts though.
It's a very -- it's a very democratic state it's very liberal state but they sometimes elect Republicans and there is that core that core rump of Republicans there.
If you were advising the marketing campaign what would you tell them to -- to deal with these independent voters and with some Republican.
We would do targeting backwards like we do a presidential race and -- real ones twos and threes we make sure that everybody's vote in the last democratic primaries we're talking to him reassuring them obligations are turning -- there's two different apparatus is what is turn out of all of those you don't know Democrats we column in the south and then there's this.
How do we get these people in the middle of may be mad at their government who may be worried about scandal who may have a lot of concerns -- driving to the polls to make sure they're hearing his message over mr.
Gomez its message to say we've got to be we can't take it for granted a lot Coakley and people still have political -- Scott Brown thinks -- we can't be done and they haven't forgotten.
The -- of the danger.
-- man is of course is this.
The better -- guys.
The more that -- Scott Brown sort of had a perfect storm in Massachusetts in the sense Coakley was not a good candidate and that window was -- short.
For that campaign it was even shorter than this one.
The window was so sure that brown could be a brief phenomenon.
Prop up in crest over into the polls before the Democrats could Marshal their forces.
This time though it looks like the Democrats are doing the kind of things chuck has described to get their people to the polls.
-- an an but I think the challenges -- you said we have a very compressed timeframe here we have two weeks.
I think that works -- mr.
Gomez his favor I think some of the child as mr.
Gomez has is that he is a newcomer.
Essentially to politics so his brand name may not be out there -- thinks you know Scott Brown had some brand recognition.
Going going into that election so he doesn't have -- challenges well.
Salute yeah I think that's -- America.
We'll be here.
That's we we -- -- -- -- small favors guys and I'd have to pray great let's put it all in perspective.
Don't let's put it all and underwear based perspective Loretta.
Let's take a quick break -- you stick with this is -- we come back I wanna I wanna talk about what's going on in this -- in the congressional -- -- -- but also the chance for an immigration bill let me warn you chuck came armed for bear on this one so be classic.
He's flexing right now so be ready as -- Leonard had a cat around I -- okay.
You know on this situation.
Is trying to show -- -- dependence.
Is trying to shows -- he's taken a different path terrorism that the American.
He's got a question always comes back to well what about the rights of our people to know what's going.
That was bill passed growl he is a democratic congressman from New Jersey he was -- Fox News colleague Newt probably.
-- her -- last night after -- -- and others received a closed door briefing.
From the administration -- -- the NSA's you snooping -- new.
And takes the point of view that.
This is Obama is not at fault here it's not perfect it was bush and his -- And this is -- -- So we are with our panel -- still.
On the Internet seems quite delighted -- -- -- be equally in good so that's today that's that's.
That's quite impressive.
And let's start again with -- -- the -- down in Atlanta.
And red for Republicans this is posed a very difficult.
Generally the party that favors strong national security.
And not necessarily the party that agrees with the ACLU very much the Republicans -- are looking for a way to deal with this issue.
And and it's it's proving difficult for some of them right.
Yeah they're really expecting that the interesting thing about this debate is that it transcends party lines it transcends partisan politics.
You have people.
Elected -- that -- across the spectrum on this issue so and I think for conservatives.
It has been a challenge.
To be able to articulate.
And share information about something that they're not supposed to be talking about in the first place.
So it's cook created quite a conundrum and I think from the perspective of blame the blame game is -- the credit as a president Obama's fault as a President Bush's fault.
You know that also gets much more muddied.
Because this debate is so.
Fractured it doesn't it just doesn't fall too black and white it's very gray.
And I think it's a very productive conversation for the country to have.
And that balance of privacy vs security.
And and for people to come to realization I think the one positive thing about this is I think that some of us subconsciously.
Knew that we were being monitored we certainly know that our activity on the Internet our activity and social media.
It is right for marketers for -- companies that the companies that.
You know our managing those sites and they have access to our information they're profiling -- for certain reasons.
You know so I I think it's healthy that -- out there.
And that we're all kind of saying okay let's acknowledge that this is an issue we've got severe and grave security concerns as a nation.
And you know people want to -- -- And we have all this information that the technology H has made available so we're weird of me as a country go with that's so from that perspective I think it's healthy.
Why anybody when you re elected president of the United States -- its I mean.
First term maybe it's fun but -- at the end when you Barack Obama and you have to let like.
Yeah were sifting through your stuff but we promise we're not doing anything bad and -- you deserve it this is not fun.
How dark buildings -- was when he started.
Well I mean it ate some tremendous what this is is a huge distraction something that the American people should know right.
And yes people and I was on -- program messed -- on the radio and they were -- well this is all legal and what we have we.
Voted -- repeal the congress passed the Patriot Act -- -- -- La Vista that's but the bottom at the -- this is it's strange that helps elect your article.
That a lot of people from the far left and apparently that's -- good this may all be legal right we have no idea it was at this level.
And what you do what is your distracting from the congress who normally hasn't done anything -- to get a few things done but now you were distracted Americans -- -- It's one thing after another back to you and how rapidly -- -- -- Yes believe -- there is a national beleaguered -- and it's like every day I heard a couple people talking.
Is there one that -- not look like political pundits.
-- said every day it's something else every day it's in the us every -- it is something -- how does that the red a fact the discussion on immigration.
This and it is trying to move this bill forward.
But it's starting to look like a rabbit running past -- shotgun barrel that sooner or later this thing's gonna get blown up.
And it's it's it's home opener it's hopping around for now what's your take.
Well I think the immigration debate has its own certain dynamics and partisan dynamic certainly.
And complexities in and of itself from this whole you know privacy security debate.
But I think that that overall you know it's that this security debate along with the incidents at the IRS and having -- and the Justice Department.
All of those things have created this sort of cloud.
That I think has tempered people outside the belt line you know regular Americans.
Yeah are watching this and saying wait a minute now now -- I believe and and are they tell what their timing is that really right and who's in charge up there.
And and what's going -- and so I think from -- perspective for Americana it's just citizens that are going about their daily business.
This becomes another big can of worms that just gets put on top of the pot.
And it's very difficult because the immigration debate in and of itself while I think it's positive that the debate is coming to the floor and it will be a transparent airing of what's actually in the bill because we haven't really had a lot of discussion about that.
Here to four with her from.
Various parties on eight the group of eight about what's in it what's not and -- but.
Being able to have this we'll discussion perhaps that can cut through -- some of the -- -- some of these other issues that are permeating across the federal government.
Turkey -- that is gonna get our first one that they took yesterday -- 8515.
Should -- should.
Basically though we -- to fill the senate exist but yes we have created five you know maybe 500 CS's and it should -- talk about stuff.
Each one is gonna get tougher.
That the gangsters say they want seventy not sixty because if they get seventy they believe they can bring more pressure this year on the Republican House.
They're not gonna get seven days can make it.
I think the camp and I think that.
-- don't quote -- on this.
But I think Marco Rubio is going to be -- -- -- -- -- immigration -- has become his -- just -- -- -- -- -- -- -- abusive don't quote him -- that US twelve months and you had a good time tugged on the rental or.
The -- we thank you very much for your time today.
Thanks -- it's a pleasure.
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