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We -- moments away this morning from a closed house hearing into the leaking of classified NSA surveillance programs.
But yesterday during an open senate committee hearing one democratic senator -- the National Security Agency chief general Keith Alexander.
On the program that sees the phone records of millions of Americans here's that exchange with senator -- -- How did we get from the reasonable grounds.
Authorize investigations statement of facts.
All phone records all the time all locations.
Here I have my Verizon phone my cellphone.
Requiring my cell -- -- Means -- moment there yesterday and now I'm -- by new York Republican congressman Peter -- On the House Intelligence Committee and he will be in that closed door briefing Paris and welcome back good to have you here this morning -- so what and head is a closed briefing so the contents of it will remain closed but but what questions do you want answered and that briefing today.
I'm if you're much familiar with the entire program I support I think these programs absolutely essential to our standards and terrific job.
There's actually nothing unconstitutional about it that follows the laws strictly and we should thank god every day that this is infected person -- saved so many lives especially New York.
Where I was actually on the ground.
I was mr.
Kelly back in 2009 that's Sunday evening that there were stopping the -- he attacked.
And I know how central -- -- otherwise hundreds maybe thousands of New Yorkers would have been incinerated the subway system the next day if we're not for the system that was employers.
Yeah I mean is that there's bunch of different reports out on that particular incidence.
This suggests that it actually was not this program that helped to uncover.
Not -- -- -- and editing the intelligence came primarily from a British agent who has found a computer back in 2009 -- -- -- linking -- to him and I don't -- you know go -- -- -- and I -- disagree with that and that the entertainment editor -- dead and and you know it's there's a little bit of controversy -- that.
But you know what -- it comes to my mind when I look at this program.
And is a question about the Boston bombings now we all understand -- that that's not gonna catch everyone all the time but it seems like it was tailor made in this program.
To -- -- they were all over the Internet.
They were all over YouTube they were -- communicating with folks in Dagestan.
Now why would these two Brothers have been able to protect their own privacy they had a lot of privacy in all of the dealings that they had.
With regard to the planning of this.
Why did they have so much privacy when it appears that that so many others do not.
First of all no wounds.
That it's that it violated the when he -- we looked at -- there's a total.
Part connection they cannot -- what I'm fine.
Connection congressman king and we knew that because Russia had alerted us to them so what I'm saying is yeah I noticed sometimes we can't get it right.
But but this is a tailor made example for this so I feel like it's a perfect structure to look at and say.
Look let's look at this situation because mark this this should have caught these guys.
It would on the first of all I agree that the FBI could've done more on the Brothers in Massachusetts and there were murdered by the Russian government.
There's no indication that they -- actually given that to the NSA.
Having said that.
Maybe say that should be more surveillance maybe that should be the fact is they are doing all I can.
And that that is no indication that I have that any of this was transmitted.
By telephone or even by email as they were planning an attack -- -- course.
The Russians say someone whose travel was not that would not be sufficient grounds I understand -- eventually look in the song was emails and he was an American citizen.
You have but one was an American citizen one wasn't I the only reason I'm not trying to you know sort of hammer and obviously people were last Tuesday was a huge tragedy.
But I feel like in the context of this larger discussion.
When you're looking at this huge collection of data it -- -- that when somebody tips is we're -- up by by the Russians.
And maybe you know this and we checked him out their fine but wouldn't at least continue to take a look at their phone records -- -- Internet -- just as a matter of course because they have we have been alerted to them.
And if that's not the case I I -- searching for it not -- knowledge I think a lot of Americans are not that there's an efficiency in this program.
Number of offers well there was no unfortunately when the FBI investigated they found no terrorist connection.
Passion that they cannot use the system that's a -- it protects American citizens and this Russian brother was protected as I understand what happens -- and a woman details.
The fact is that shows how difficult it is give it for the yet these phone calls to be.
Followed and also how very very typical it is -- to anyone's emails that makes no sense.
Because if you're gonna look at anybody's email that you consider that -- -- judge and we know that the -- a court -- almost every single one of these cases of the -- That is not true what other -- I think there -- six that they didn't accept adamant about a month.
That's that is the very distorted version of the -- digits.
The truth and that is the reason is a small number rejected as it does not going to be except it's not submitted there's much negotiation back and forth.
Between the courts -- just smoke and lawyers involved with the and it's very.
Those and how difficult it is and how orphanage stole a Cadillac got -- -- then they refine it and they bring it down and then they bring her back and that's -- -- -- is being approved -- -- The first suggestion -- the first request is turned down.
And then they modify -- or -- receive the final approval was given that the initial I was part of his arm up -- know what you're talking right is what you're saying is there's too many protections in place.
-- her music I think it's great it's -- USA networks and -- just grabbing a ton of information that we don't know how to.
He is there I can't -- any -- that there would be a judge if you went to the scene of the Russians alerted us to these guys.
But we can't find anything on them but can we just keep right looking at their fun stuff -- that a judge is gonna say no.
Yes I got I don't see that going through I really don't but you have to show a terrorist connection to any what had -- if you -- at the justly or actually just so you know to this day.
They've not been able so -- foreign terrorist connection -- this now maybe -- that.
But even after almost investigation -- still mild -- even now after the fact if we know what happened of the foreign terrorist connection until you have that.
You cannot use -- and you cannot use -- that's just reality it tonight -- -- are you really proves how much American citizens are being protected sometimes at the risk of her own judgment.
I think it I think it proves that that the system is not efficient that we're gathering so much an army licenses -- so Andrea thank you.
-- report news for you -- stores your -- because we didn't catch this when the course of the protections in place.
-- there -- you -- -- -- protections and that's a different story I'm saying that these phone numbers which are kept there's no constitutional right this is fully in accordance with the constitution.
Fully in accordance with the prize that believe according to reports supervision and monitoring so I don't I just don't see what the issue was -- -- Don't know what I'm -- is that it actually leads to real results in what we turn Saturday at.
-- we heard yesterday it was and it has to do you think that we will see some of those instances disclosed so that people like me and a lot of other folks out there.
Can say how can I get I get it you know we need to have some -- Yeah -- personal was this -- logic is known to congress all along now having said that I hope after Alexander can we small bit of the more you release.
The more you support the enemy this is very very difficult to do we are that we -- going to be wants to -- us.
And even -- -- is planning and watching everything we do.
Everything we -- may seem somewhat almost suspect people back to get us because they're monitoring everything you do they have been addressed their methods based on what we're doing and that's what we really.
After -- reminded Joseph Alexander is by the absolute patriot I think he's incredibly efficiently -- -- -- historic path and -- -- won't -- -- -- cut kind of generally uniform yet.
I understand thank you so much operatives and promote the bass and we'll we'll -- regulator -- -- good.
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