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Move on the show to Jerry Kaplan outside technology Jennifer foxnews.com joins us live talk about the NSA and the NSA program.
Obviously Jeremy huge stories coming out there's been somewhat of -- thing we've.
That are involving technology and essays is of course at the forefront of that fact Fox -- -- some great reporting on that we have some more reports coming out of it -- firsthand.
In regards to an -- -- -- coming over the course of the next week explains in the technology people how some of these words are being played with if you will I want to start off first.
You have I don't think we'll know about it is and is -- good to talk about what you want -- how to companies are responding with a first was about the NSA.
In a new massive facility in Utah Utah really becoming the gathering senator.
For everything technology explain it to us and explain the slide show.
It precisely we have this very nice like -- look at this new facilities being built -- you -- is going to be the largest.
I wanna called a data spying warehouse.
Eight in the United States the -- is going to be -- using when this whole scandal broke originally.
We learned that they were collecting information from Verizon.
From land lines not cell phones and we have every reason to assume that this is something's going on for other landline providers as well you AT&T for example.
The -- that they -- collecting have to go somewhere where to go it goes to Utah.
That gigantic facility that you saw right there they had a ribbon cutting ceremony last last month to -- and -- this thing.
Private of course nobody actually got to go see it you go up the -- of -- only sees that wall of windows that we're showing you right there.
Inside though is just an incredible amount of technology.
Experts don't know precisely what it is because it is so top secret we believe -- -- is chock full servers we spoke with an expert yesterday in fact he said.
Most likely something like 5000 servers used I have some numbers for that just astounding to think about.
-- point seven billion dollars to build this thing it's one point five million square feet overall.
It could hold as much as I got a byte of data which is just a preposterous number this -- it's equivalent to.
520 million pages of text just a preposterous amount of information all being -- over there what they're doing with it.
That's the whole big scandal here what exactly are they doing -- information whose information is it.
It is an -- information I think the public really wants to know some more information about that kind of stuff.
You know I think -- that they were -- were -- here boxes is our reporters in DC and around the country have been.
-- getting feedback if you will and some people in these industries to give us more of an idea of what is being gathered and John Roberts one of our colleagues -- to report yesterday basically talking with a digital footprint that we leave.
Every day and now but I mean getting up and is turning -- -- Kindle or iPad.
Leaves a digital footprint not not to mention texts and phone calls and emails -- -- that's.
Those -- the basic things that we really -- ten years old when it comes to -- -- talking about things now where you can.
They can know -- you within a millisecond of asserts that you've you've taken so I think people don't realize really how close were being followed.
Exactly and then it now that leads to the other point that -- want to discuss with you hear what exactly is being tracked here because I think that there's been a lot of misconception.
Largely because we're talking about some laws and and some nondisclosure agreements have been signed here we can't.
But not know exactly what's going on at least until we have some hearings and get -- straight facts from these guys.
But the original reports that came -- from the Washington Post from the guardian -- we've done some stores as well a lot of those initial reports said.
-- companies like FaceBook and Yahoo! and Microsoft and AOL that they are directly involved with this program called prism.
That they are handing over they're complicit in passing our information directly over the government.
Both of those reports and we've seen a slide show a leaked PowerPoint presentation that came directly from the government that -- says that very very explicitly.
New information is come to -- it looks like that.
I want to say that that slide show is.
Missed portraying the facts from what I've -- I spoke with some people -- -- just the other day they were saying.
Look we are not by any means handing information directly over in fact all of the major tech companies have now said.
Absolutely not the Google chairman post this -- statement a few days ago saying.
It was -- What though.
He basically said no we are not doing that I don't even know what this program is -- there's this massive disconnect here between.
Well on one hand this PowerPoint presentation says and what these technology companies are saying and right in the middle there's some truth but I think we still have yet to get to it.
Very interesting stuff going on -- -- they want Mike's my data to be kept confidential I don't want the government going through it are -- Really hard to tell right now but I think I'm leaning towards thinking not so much remains to be seen.
I'm very eager to suit comes out of some of these hearings were having.
I'm only in the other direction and I think probably likely.
The reason -- I'm hearing some of the folks that are in this industry and when it comes down -- are playing with words and and I can tell you firsthand from doing the news reports that we do and I had done over the course of the last few months.
And it specifically been Ghazi.
And I've I've noticed how government officials.
Not just on one particular and want to -- party or another how they how they play with words bomb and for example I've been told you know.
You can say yeah we're not an Afro was aboard were not keeping Americans now you're not -- Americans to you don't hate anymore that's terminology that's really antiquated.
But you what you are doing is providing links that go to locations where the conversation has been -- It may not be recording to be kept in a different format but it's not just numbers I think that's what Americans are starting -- real lives on you'll have to hit.
Americans over the head with some misinformation because we're so busy doing other things to understand that.
You know you are really being tracked in every sense of the word comes down to how much are you comfortable with.
We all want security we are once they do -- -- the bad guys to be to be -- But the same time how much do we wanna give up I mean honestly I I don't want you know I don't I'm not doing anything illegal but it -- -- drug in my life but the same time I want it we'll know exactly what I'm good.
I don't know -- wipe everything until my son everything.
As time some wanna go sit down and read part of my and the latest book -- bought in the living room I don't want anybody to know uncertain at wake me up our mess with me sowing.
That's where that Americans are starting to start to realize but they really get paid to do the wording that's coming out of Washington do believe they're playing with.
Words that's exactly right and and you know we had the exact same situation going on here the first words you the first words that that they were using to describe this.
Compliance with this program with direct access that the government have direct access then to Facebook's servers FaceBook came and said no the government did not have.
Direct access and then moved -- I didn't know they cannot have direct access.
However -- they have been direct access.
Yes they do in fact they have great explicit procedures.
For getting access.
So question the question -- that you know how much access we still don't know exactly how much access I think you're right -- probably right have a lot of that information and they probably shouldn't.
So a lot still have to come out.
I -- a couple of yeah I a couple people tweeting in here while numbers says DWL -- on they live chat here and -- foxnews.com says.
Snowden is swore an oath to protect to serve a -- known service country but never to follow orders blindly which is right to go -- sort of chain of command.
-- this is becoming more of a question somebody else put upon here he believes that we're being lied to -- like to win it would back in March.
Win officials -- -- testified in front of congress so.
Online right now -- starting to pick up some steam as well people are are weighing in.
And started to -- -- note of what's what's being what's happening really what they're may be missing.
What -- -- -- here's a question of who can you trust and the thing that everyone should remember is.
Don't put anything out there if you don't want it out there right I mean today that just that default thing we have to keep reminding people don't put pictures out there the.
-- -- it -- you don't it's it's yeah but the problem is we're talking about more than that I mean it's about things you don't even know your phones tracking you to drive to work.
You're not even texting sending an email setting -- photo not I mean so the point now is -- I understand if I should want that picture up there of me you know drinking out of a red solo cop out there.
But I also want information going to every single company that buys it of what time I go to work where I stopped for gas to a -- to copy doing what we're stopping a -- -- -- the front door of the opposite me.
I want that's not information I'm sharing analog tweeting all I just passed you know seventh street Santa Monica in all but saying that so but I've always telling people that that's where I think the frustrating part.
And that kind of stuff very ordered I don't know if you're shouldn't be doing that flat out and it's it's unclear exactly how much of that is going on right now but if any of it is going on it just.
It feels wrong it just shouldn't be happening.
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