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Fired up Senator John McCain on the senate floor after the White House says -- Syria's president.
Had killed his own people using chemical weapons the senator demanded a no fly zone to protect the rebels -- -- I thanked the president for acknowledging.
That the Syrians are using chemical weapons and massacring their own people.
And I applaud his.
Decision to provide additional weapons I do not.
Every ounce every bone in my body.
Knows that simply providing weapons will not change the battlefield equation and we must change the battlefield equation.
So -- he's.
We are very glad to be joined now by Senator John McCain.
Ranking member of the armed services committee.
The senator also travel to Syria recently in secret he met with the rebel fighters there knows quite a bit about what's going on on the ground they're good morning senator always good to have you back here.
Thank you -- All right -- you believe that providing weapons because the White House really has not defined what the scale and scope of of their involvement.
Intentions are what do you think needs to be done here what would satisfy you.
Much that is I think we do have to view this situation that context terribly deteriorating situation in the region.
Lebanon is being destabilize.
Is overrun with and refugees.
The fighting is now.
That latest -- in 93000.
People of the -- occurred -- horrible atrocities are taking place and the Russians are providing sophisticated.
Weapons such as missiles and airplanes.
-- allies and thousands of fighters.
The Iranians have boots on the ground and are supplying weapons.
So it's a totally unfair and unbalanced fight and now the rebels are the freedom fighters -- -- The Syrian national army -- our.
Part of being.
Beaten every place around Syria because of the overwhelming firepower.
And air power is really the deciding factor.
So you've got to take their air power a power out of it you've got to have a safe zone where they can operate train and equip.
And we've got to turn this thing around frankly anything less than that.
Will just be countered with the increase Russian assistance Iranian assistance.
And more Hezbollah fighters into the region so -- got to change the battlefield situation.
And just sending arms -- very frankly.
Although they need them very badly they need any tank in any air weapons.
-- is not going to change the situation on the ground in the massacre.
Yeah I mean if hindsight is always 22 money right but.
I mean a lot of people would feel that if we had done this a lot sooner and I know that you advocated doing it sooner that it would have -- clearer.
There's been some al-Qaeda able -- -- into these rebel groups which is of great concern to a lot of people.
Is it is it too late and if we -- -- now it sounds like we're in -- From what you're saying if we if we can hope to achieve the goal and also tell us what it what is the ultimate goal here.
Our ultimate goal is removed by her side which the president has articulated.
Many times and -- -- would be complicated really be difficult.
Will -- be a -- Chemical weapons caches -- gonna have to be secured.
Frankly every day that goes by and we don't get rid of -- -- it becomes more and more complicated.
And difficult but for us to sit by.
And watch these people being massacred raped tortured in the most terrible.
The Russians -- -- -- Hezbollah is all in and and we're talking about giving -- more light weapons and it it's insane and let me just tell you it is turning into a regional conflict not just a conflict.
Within Syria and the United States has sat by and -- United States even overruling his recommendations a year ago of -- advisors.
Let -- just mention one thing to fight good.
The president has said repeatedly and before the Senate Armed Services Committee then secretary of defense phonetic and -- -- it's inevitable that he will fall it's inevitable that he will fall on these.
Are supposed to be our best and smartest people on defense does anybody believe today.
The -- -- side is bound to fall of course not it's disgraceful.
The conduct of the United States and sitting by and watching this happen and by the way none of us want boots on the ground well.
You know that and that that becomes ultimate question I mean based on everything you're saying -- think back to Libya and we heard the same thing for the president that.
That Qaddafi would fall that it would happen -- French really led the way.
In that situation so now what you're describing in terms of the Russian involvement and -- Ronnie involvement here.
Is -- regional conflict the president has always referred to this as a civil war in Syria should we get involved in a civil war in Syria.
Now we're talking about a regional conflict that we're gonna need our allies engaged in as well and Great Britain has said you know -- not sure that wherein basically at this point so what would you do on the British.
Well British want him and they send it stated that everything but openly the French -- -- made long ago looks.
Said it was clear that -- -- use chemical weapons by the way we determine that by her side -- killed about a hundred a 150 people.
With chemical weapons how to be kill the other 93000.
Question it it's it's just.
What what the president did was he gave them a red line the game -- green light.
To do everything else and if I sound a little emotional about this it's because the news out of that country is how we I think.
And it is about to destabilize.
And maybe even overthrow the government of Jordan.
It is about to cause eleven and become.
-- cockpit of sectarian violence and we have basically passively sat there and done nothing.
Hi I hope you'll come back senator because I want attracts you about.
You know the reaction of the American people to all of this and and how you do all this without ending -- eventually with boots on the ground -- -- that was definite ideas here today just mentioned really yeah these spots from Bosnia and Kosovo are examples in the present United States has to explain to the American people.
-- the fast forward to that we hope Senator McCain thank you so much we'll talk she sent thank.
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