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Lawmakers saying terrorists are already changing their behavior based on information leaked by NSA contractor Edwards -- about the government surveillance programs.
Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee Mike Rogers making his remarks after a closed door briefing on Capitol Hill with -- The more we know the more dangerous this situation becomes that exposes our allies we think.
By the exposure this program and the changes that are we can already see being made by those folks who wish to do us harm and our allies harm number one.
In number two we are very very concerned that it might.
Make it more difficult to track bad guys trying to harm.
United States citizens in the United States.
Another busy day.
In -- building on your screen lawmakers are holding another closed door meeting on Capitol Hill.
-- that intelligence activities in here at the latest developments the director of -- at the NSA insisting the monitoring of phone calls and tracking Internet activity.
Help to thwart dozens of terrorist attacks -- -- he hasn't been more specific on that.
Two democratic lawmakers don't believe that.
And they want.
A more detailed explanation also investigators say -- -- claims that he made off with additional classified files.
Which have yet to be exposed are likely true he worked as assistance administrator.
And lawmakers say much of the information he's taken should have been beyond his reach.
So let's talk a little bit more about all of this -- Monica Crowley she is a Fox News contributor and author as well we alluded to it in that lead in their Monica and I think.
Much of the confusion on the part of Americans has to do with the fact that we're getting confusing messages.
-- -- Washington it's up to the members of congress to supervise these programs write these administration programs right.
Well that's right they're supposed to be -- congressional oversight as well as judicial oversight President Obama said that in fact has been taking place over many years has this program has been under way.
The problem is we're getting conflicting information about the nature of this program we're getting conflicting information about what members of congress have been told about it.
How and whether or not it is a massive expansion of the existing program under the bush years and who this sleeker actually -- We're getting out conflicting statements about its effectiveness let me let me tell you what.
The senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall said yesterday they say we have not seen any evidence showing that the NSA -- dragnet collection of americans' phone records.
Has produced any uniquely valuable intelligence.
The public deserves a clear explanation.
Then on the other side of the -- you have represented Mike Rogers who we just heard from in that leading and he's former FBI age and I believe he says.
If you're going to connect the dots on -- nine elevenths style event.
You have to have the dots in the box in order to connect he thinks this program is worth -- it.
I think most of the American people given this new threat environment after 9/11 where we have terrorists actually targeting civilians as we saw on September 11 and so many other terror attacks.
Most Americans would say.
Okay to a program like this John if they felt that it was being run -- intently and run efficiently and not being abused.
We're having this conversation now in the context of severe abuses of power by other branches of this government namely the I -- the Department of Justice god knows who else.
Suit now questions are being raised about the potential for abuse here and this is why we need answers to all of these very key questions.
You know if this program -- run the way so many of its supporters including President Obama say it's being run.
Then the situation that would have been Taylor made for this -- -- concern I have Brothers you're making overseas phone calls to Chechnya of all places the Russian government was giving us a heads up they should've been caught.
In this data mining program the surveillance program and yet they were not so lot of the American people are saying well wait a minute what exactly is this data mining actually being used for.
-- not Nadal -- -- another case in point in touch with and -- Lockheed the radicalized American cleric who was overseas they would exchange even.
Exactly and it's not just terrorism now we have to worry about we saw a report today saying that a number actually thousands of private companies like Google so many other Internet companies.
Are actually in an information sharing program with the NSA and the C -- -- With -- exchanging classified and sensitive information back and forth.
So the question John here it is is this information strictly being used to track terrorists and suspected terrorists.
Or is it being used for other purposes Rasmussen has a -- -- out poll out today showing 57% of Americans.
Fear that this kind of information will be used for political abuse and targeting and one of the questions too is you know -- the -- to court is supposed to supervise all of this as are several committees in the congress.
But do they even understand the technical nature of these terms like meta data that are being batted around here I mean we know that the -- the court essentially.
Has approved every single -- that's been presented yet I've turned down very few at least as far as we -- -- again all of this is cloaked in secrecy which is another part of that I'm not arguing that our national security should be conducted wide open it in in public I don't think any of the world can they.
But since we're paying for this program announced public knowledge since we're paying for -- and now we're also the targets of it.
Think the American people need some answers and we're gonna continue to explore and obviously -- on happening now on Fox News Monica Crowley thank you classic.
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