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Whistle blowers and lakers are pulling back -- curtain of secrecy on the widespread surveillance of US citizens by our government.
-- -- just the latest he's revealed new details about how the national -- the security agency.
Collects massive amounts of data on Americans and their phone calls through Verizon.
But in 2006 another whistle blower claimed AT&T gave the NSA direct access to vast amounts of customer information.
What equipment built right into the system.
Well that sparked several lawsuits charging invasion of privacy.
Most of those cases were thrown out after congress gave telecommunication companies retroactive immunity.
Mark Klein is that whistle blower he is the author of wiring up the Big Brother machine and fighting it and he joins us now.
Essentially much of what you told the country in your lawsuit seven years ago.
Edwards know and just revealed about the NSA right.
Well actually -- has revealed.
Much more information.
And it just confirms that the NSA.
What they started on the bush.
Has expanded it even further and it's getting worse where does your lawsuit stand right now.
Well as a result of the congress passing.
And immunity bill for the phone companies because they knew.
They had committed crimes.
He -- immunity for the phone companies so the lawsuit against AT&T.
Was dismissed in 2009.
However there's still alive.
Another lawsuit directly against the NSA.
There are those who argue that the that the NSA isn't collecting Social Security numbers and and telephone numbers and social and and address -- and that sort of thing and therefore.
The data that it is collecting he's not really harmful to us as individuals what do you say.
That's ridiculous they're collecting all your personal information that's out there.
And from that take -- puff piece together your Social Security number two for that matter.
But they're collecting.
All your email your web browsing.
I think at the very least you are.
A phone call data or records which tells them who you've -- and win.
And when you goes over record like that over time they can piece together who you are associates of -- And the new stuff is even more revealing and frightening.
Because there -- they're tapping into.
All of the social media companies Google and Yahoo! and Microsoft.
And so forth and it gives an even deeper.
Personal picture of your whole life -- But people like Walter Pincus in the Washington Post argued -- -- always on FaceBook Twitter the kind of thing they don't really care about privacy these days.
That's not true people puts put some stuff out like a picture of their girlfriend.
But when they find out -- they have now that everything that they have stormed out there.
Is accessible by the government that puts a whole different frightening aspect to it not stored information includes financial data.
Mark I think that's why I'm glad we have to say survive because the computer's about it.
And it mark thank you very much.
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