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-- the -- cap White House defending the president's upcoming trip to Africa chief of staff Denis McDonough asked on CBS.
Whether or not this is the best use of taxpayer dollars.
The Washington Post reported this week the president's trip to Africa may cost between sixty and -- -- Million dollars.
Is that work state in that time of sequestration we've got people at various government agencies working four days a week making -- 20% cut in pay because of these severe budget cuts are.
Effect Washington Post story also said that was that range of price tag that they put on that trip is fully consistent way.
The kinds of up prices that we -- the costs that we paid for similar trips in the past.
For Republican and democratic administrations.
Question to ask yourself is the one that you just asked is it worth.
It's very important for the -- -- United States.
As the commander in chief and as the representative of this government and have that American people to be able to travel -- To carry out our farm policy.
Now on the question of the sequester.
Is that right that we should just let the sequester some place -- Selena we should not.
That's why we have aggressively been reaching out to Republicans and Democrats to underscore the tough Trace of.
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Rich Lowry better than national review and Fox News contributors well good morning to both of you and why I don't worry you are in this rich I mean the president the first that -- -- that they need their security and their protection overseas.
But I guess it comes back to the fundamental question -- this is right what you believe.
Well in the context of sequestration though it's the White House has betrayed as bringing devastation all cross the land it's very hard.
To put your finger on what the White House and the president has given up even just symbolically.
Now turn to this trip.
Look the president has to travel overseas -- first world country -- super power in fact so we can't afford to send precedent.
On trips that say a sad commentary indeed and in the scheme of things.
This isn't where the real money bill is it's all in entitlements and of course there the president and I just just is defending the status quo that eventually will bank.
-- -- Cindy have a problem with Bob -- asking that question sixty to a hundred million dollars from.
Well -- -- in the when he asked the question sort of bought into -- -- an idea which is its unit which is that the president's doing something wrong here and I don't think that he is and -- the Washington Post got this it's was frankly just an estimate they don't know how much gonna cost but where did they get that it's based on past trips they say so it's based on probably what George Bush spent.
So if if that's what George -- spending wise it back for the president to be doing that he is the president there -- I imagine there are many things that need to be done so I don't you know here controversy here than yours and you know only for people were looking for something to criticize the president not regarding sequestration thing.
The -- the budget's not fungible he can't the president not going on this trip is not gonna change.
The fact that there are people who are or furloughed so it's not it's not as though he says they don't really change that situation amazing thing and nobody talks about the sequester.
Remember I don't know doom America the worst thing that ever happened to the United States government -- the US economy and it's been barely a ripple and you know.
Heads of state often -- make symbolic sacrifice is even if they don't.
Balance the budget right away the president certainly say I'm not gonna take a vacation and -- stop.
Golf thing but he's done -- -- that and they'll the other thing here and -- right this is bigger than just President Obama just.
The amazing imperial trappings that -- now come with the American presidency.
If Michelle and Barack Obama we're gonna take a safari on this trip that would have to be a sniper team.
Along with them and we're a long race that was -- down -- -- -- they but we're a long way away from now this was after his presidency -- -- -- went to look at.
Africa carried his own god and -- protect himself from a lot of animals and back again Bosnia protection from America.
At a different time to get this military cargo planes 56 support vehicles.
Fourteen limousines three trucks literally sheets of bulletproof glass to cover the windows the hotels but the first family staying.
I'm -- wow NP -- is right.
Yeah I mean it that this is a bigger this is bigger than Barack Obama this is you know if if people are concerned about this and you have to look at all.
Presidents -- travel and not just presidential -- frankly the travel of cabinet secretaries when they go overseas.
If it's quite -- your Rich's point -- it and you know you yeah that the example.
You each -- people what you're Dylan and say you know this is what we're cut back honey can you give us one example of how the White House has cut back.
Since sequestration went into effect well they cut off.
I think that every now has affected about.
-- So I and I have made some small -- by I think that in in the white house budget which frankly it might have budget isn't that big and I don't think that there's a lot of I mean having worked -- at least during the Clinton administration wasn't there there's not a lot of -- it cut its example.
Yeah I know I just I feeling this is not really.
It -- it -- -- so the president can make some example I don't think the president should stop playing golf the president likes to play golf it's something that that gives him.
You know gets his mind off of things I supported George Bush going mountain biking they should be allowed to do these things and and I I just don't think that this.
The fair criticism are effectively put a stop playing golf at a at a certain but just -- really -- -- -- name one thing that they've cut back in the White House at mentors that affect the public.
Can there have been -- I signed -- -- -- tonight in the it -- you'll find them and come back and tell us five cents average.
Is that this the last and that's sequestration generally every agency just has to cut a little bit.
And they portrayed as some disaster for the White House has cut back a little bit on something and actually had to do throughout.
The entire government has happened and hasn't been a disaster if thanks to both -- rich here since -- -- -- are things you.
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