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-- new developments out another controversy for the Obama administration this one involves the IRS is targeting conservatives and other groups.
-- two years.
Congressional sources now confirm to Fox News that this Washington based IRS supervisor.
Based in Washington DC.
Has now admitted that she personally scrutinized Tea Party applications.
For tax exempt status as far back as 2010.
We're told that holly causes since been replaced as the top deputy.
In that division we've had conflicting reports about -- -- been placed on administrative -- -- fired to be honest we just don't know which it is at this hour.
But her disclosure to congressional investigators discredits claims.
Repeatedly made by administration officials that higher ups at the tax agency.
And those in Washington did not know about this practice.
And that it was just too so called rogue agents in the Cincinnati office who were acting on the round.
And -- now radio talk show host guy Benson who was the political editor for town hall.
So we -- about holly -- we knew that she was somehow involved we knew that she'd sat in on all the meetings that the inspector general conducted -- virtually all.
Of the of the Cincinnati people which the IG came under fire for because the question was.
How do you let the supervisor sit -- -- -- interviewing the underling an asking the underling who told you do this and it's not so good you it's like you know right at that one.
You know OK so now we find out indeed she was heavily involved personally saying -- she scrutinized between twenty and thirty cases.
And and got -- this was -- a low level Cincinnati employer or employee.
Now of course not it was a leader in Washington so we have yet another layer of this onion coming off.
As we try to get to the rotten core of this IRS scandal and as you said meg and another talking point from the IRS has bitten the dust very hard in this case.
Let's try to remember the timeline.
At first IRS leadership in -- and -- -- -- Technologist maybe two peoples road employees out of Cincinnati.
As soon as we found out about this we put an end to it and so on and so forth well that wasn't so much the case there were documented came out in testimony that was given that actually.
Irish leaders in Washington -- much sooner than they had admitted.
Then you -- to push back from the Cincinnati and placing -- hang on a second.
We were following directions from Washington DC in fact some of the people who -- -- to chairman -- -- committee.
They've said in fact it was micro managed a lot of this targeting from DC and today we need one the micro managers -- -- pods.
And -- for explanations and excuses as she tries to explain her own behavior.
A really raise eyebrows to signal.
Well I wanna get into that would you 12 but -- but before we get to her explanation -- want to stick to to the question of dishonesty.
Because one of the names in this whole IRS scandal that has really emerged front senator his -- -- And that's the woman who went before congress and asserted her Fifth Amendment right not to incriminate herself.
Rather than give the congressional testimony before she did that she said she's done nothing raw.
-- -- she tried to exonerate herself well Lois.
Is the one who tried to break this scandal quietly.
Without a lot of fanfare.
At this legal conference back on May tenth after telling congressional investigators known to wasn't going on in refusing to do in front of them she said tries to sneak it and in a planted Q&A -- may tenth.
And she said that day and I quote.
It's the lying people that did it with out talking to managers.
Well holly -- is a Washington based IRS supervisor.
A top deputy in the division.
And that is directly -- contrary to what most lawyers -- the lowest -- as far as -- from the flow chart guy.
Is directly above holly pots and she she knows what holly -- role and is.
And so does it raise additional questions about Lois is honesty.
Well but make any suggesting that -- -- may have not told the whole truth about -- and of course.
She -- been lying and I use that word intentionally here from the very beginning in fact the way that she leaked this information.
In a coordinated so called Q&A session she denied that that had been arranged before -- that that was a lie it was I mean she -- not been telling the truth.
The only thing that she said before congress when she was under oath was.
I'm not gonna say anything more although I've done nothing wrong.
Let's remember lowest -- and some of her bosses Stephen Miller -- -- -- they all knew about this and have opportunities before congress under -- To share their knowledge of what was going on there have been an internal IRS probe there is the IG investigation going on they knew about the targeting they.
Failed to mention it underwrote the congress.
There -- -- systemic.
In -- Mac dishonesty at the highest levels of the IRS throughout this entire imbroglio and that is one of they always say that the cover -- worse -- the crime.
In this case that's debatable they're both pretty bad but the cover -- has been extensive and very hand handed.
One wonders when that would -- learn told the AP.
It's the line people they did it without talking to managers -- -- whether she ever -- saw.
You know being called to testify before congress and the huge story this became I want to ask you about -- it caused elegant because.
She in his -- reason with congress said that.
Okay the supervisors in DC did work closely with agents in the field but they didn't fully understand what the agents were doing.
And she said that it in Cincinnati agents openly talked about handling Tea Party cases.
But she says I thought the term was such a short hand.
For all applications from groups that were politically active conservative.
-- liberal she thought that liberal groups.
With synonymous with Tea Party.
You you have to just laugh I mean.
Yes when I refer to the Obama administration I just shorthand for talking that Republicans in congress to write him at all.
-- when you talk about the Tea Party and conservatives you're talking about the Tea Party and conservatives and one of the few things that everyone agrees on in this scandal right left and senator.
Is that the crux of this was that only one side of the spectrum was targeted and that's like the basic the -- of this whole thing.
So the notion that they say -- they're just calling them Tea Party and by the way there's the -- lists those be on the lookout rosters those were explicitly.
Tailored to target and attack the right so.
Excuse number 10 we thought it was shorthand -- just not it's strange credulity to put it very very mildly and then second -- and she also said.
Officials also a miscommunication.
The people in Cincinnati had asked for guidance from Washington the people in Washington were holding off on that and -- the Cincinnati cases were continuing.
-- -- even though they weren't and therefore there was a delay of over a year on some of these decisions when it came down to who gets these tax exempt status is and here we -- -- -- familiar path.
To incompetence and ignorance -- -- the fall -- position.
Across this administration on any number of scandals which I guess they assume sounds better then you know open partisanship and deceit they say -- -- -- -- What we thought the other guys were doing it and we didn't really understand and therefore -- All these applications were delayed it come on delay was the whole point here they were trying to bury these folks in paperwork.
And keep them from getting an answer and that is exactly what the ammo was so bowled over excuses.
Rise noble and -- that is one many questions they still need to look Andy you know the motivation.
And in a country -- -- -- -- this case is closed -- it's not closed I think you have.
Thank you --
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