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Well if you build -- I guess this means illegals.
Won't come because that -- -- Arizona largely sealed its border.
Illegal immigrants have largely stopped crossing it.
Good news -- Arizona -- said enough was enough so they built it.
Bad news for Texas where residents also said enough was enough but you know they didn't build it which explains the latest -- of illegals they're attempting to cross it.
Would seals the argument for my next guest that sealing the border works to keep uninvited guests out.
He's Arizona's sheriff Paul W Paul good to have you back -- us what do you make of this remarkable correlation there.
Well it's a path of least resistance it's human nature.
-- we saw this back 1517.
Years ago in California when they if you remember the difficulties that they were having in California they were the main effort.
That there were hundreds and hundreds of thousands of illegals coming across the border as well as a lot of the narco.
Issues that the trafficking of drugs from the cartels were coming from there.
When they started to secure the border and I was a young army lieutenant at the time helping south of San Diego north to Tijuana.
Bill double barrier fourteen foot tall corrugated steel -- climb fence.
In the effort.
Worked it and then all that.
Drug trafficking in illegal immigration shifted to the east.
Towards Arizona and we've been the main effort and so now with more resource is more Border Patrol agents additional infrastructure where it's still not totally bill.
But there's such a concentration of effort there that it's expressing itself the past -- of least resistance is Texas.
New Mexico and and still Arizona still the main effort.
The bottom line is that if you make it difficult for some -- -- -- what you at least they're gonna seek out leads.
Areas of resistance right.
-- -- but via the argument against building a wall -- even something electronic that would be akin to what wall.
Is that against very pricey and it is illegal immigration bill that they hope to make law.
That is the sticking point on that it would cost billions at a minimum maybe tens of billions when all was said and done.
Do you buy those figures sheriff then is that any reason not to include enforcement.
Right up front.
About what we're legalizing.
Good great point because that's the crux of the opposition's argument but I asks and I asked back in retort.
Well what is.
Is the price of our national security what is that the price of our national sovereignty.
To protect not just with the illegal immigration and now we have eleven to twenty million illegals here.
The drug cartels and Mexico 60000 people have been killed in Mexico because these cartel wars and eight.
And they come up through our border largely uninhibited.
It and then you look at all of the other expands with our military forces around the world protecting other countries.
Why can't we spend as a GAO Government Accountability Office says three point one billion dollars to.
Secure the border and that's not a price too heavy to pay and it finally addresses this issue.
Let's secure the border first.
Enforce all the laws then and only then can we talk about what thinking of they would like to do is a path to citizenship there were some form of the amnesty.
I will watch it closely because this is always -- stick and went in years past and siren goes yes thank you very very much.
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