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I have -- Orion -- thanks for watching us and I do you believe President Obama that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo there is no question the president's in trouble.
According new CNN poll mr.
Obama's job approval ratings plummeting 45% of Americans now approve of the president's job performance down eight points in less than a month.
Now disapprove so you could see all -- controversy.
Are taking a tool on this drop Obama.
Dots the president gave an interview to Charlie Rose.
What I can say.
Unequivocally is that if you -- a US person.
The analysts say.
Listen to your telephone calls.
And the NSA cannot target your emails and have not and have not.
They cannot and have not by long and by rule.
As you may know the NSA whistleblower -- would Snowden says US intelligence is listening phone calls and reading emails but -- Has provided no hard evidence of that so talking points is suspicious.
That being said mr.
Obama's now on the record and if if evidence is produced.
That any US intelligence agency is reading emails without a specific warrant.
Obama could very well be impeached.
-- how important his statement to mr.
rose really hit it's no going back now.
Pres Obama's is flat out no one is listening to phone calls or reading emails without a specific.
Warrant to do so.
Today the same question was asked of the director of the NSA general Keith Alexander.
-- the NSA have the ability to listen to americans' phone calls or read their emails under these two programs.
No we do not -- that authority.
Does the technology exists that the NSA to flip a switch by some analysts to listen to americans' phone calls or read their emails now.
Without snowed nor another whistle blower producing hard evidence contradict the general and the president.
The snooping story will likely fade away in the coming months.
But the IRS story will not fade away -- costs that scandals getting worse.
And -- may have noticed the president has not define the IRS scandal the way he did with the NSA snooping allegations.
Let's say present Obama did anything wrong in the -- -- I am saying we the people don't know who the bad guys are.
But we do know there are bad -- So summing up.
Tony -- giving President Obama the benefit of the doubt on the NSA deal because -- -- guy.
With shady to me.
-- -- that is -- story tonight reaction joining us from Washington Fox News political strong program and you say.
I say bill you've been right now two weeks in a row this is like haley's comet once every 76 years.
So I'll take advantage -- if you I have I was -- never shocker.
I've said by the revelations about the phone -- the mapping of the phone calls remember we had that debate a decade ago.
This is not new news this is -- and we actually had a debate as to whether the phone companies who at the beginning of the decade.
Right after nine elevenths provided the information without even a warning.
Whether or not the phone companies would be given immunity.
From lawsuits and they work we have had this debate and there -- no reason to doubt.
That they are not listening in on the phone calls without a second approach to the courts.
Wait a minute to get oil out there -- a court order hold it you say there's no reason to doubt we got a guy and Hong Kong -- an -- -- Who worked for the NSA who did this kind of -- who says the opposite.
That -- snooping all over the place without the correct warns from -- But -- this isn't just he said she said in a place where nobody can see anything.
We have had divided the testimony and everybody.
Of calls in -- widespread to mapping operation.
Will you record of the phone call who called whom when number cardinal.
We have had you billions of these have we had one of the case.
Which has been.
Unauthorized listening in on -- -- I that I know has anyone sued.
Has anyone they wouldn't necessarily loyal to Charles you wouldn't you wouldn't necessarily know the only way you know that is if someone inside the intelligence agencies and leaks.
What they got from the listening if they indeed did it.
Out to somebody like the IRS it look -- feel I'm -- engaged it's there's somebody engage in recreational listening.
That's one thing -- it might be impossible to find one guy out of the thousands who does that in if you find him.
He gets can't yet but if you're listening it.
In order to harass somebody to blackmail somebody we would know about it it would have a consequence if they listened in on view they would have stuff -- -- They would be a purpose you would hear about it and you would tell other people that fact that we have not heard anything of that sort in a decade.
I think is evidence on this side of the president and undecided Keith Alexander.
Who's the head of NSA who says we do not listen in unless we get a court order with probable cause.
Yeah and and the way -- that is always been some terrorist in Yemen calls.
And then you get that number are and you know the -- already track and a guy and Yemen so he calls you wanna know picks up the -- and the fives are judged -- -- you can you can listen.
But you know why I that I give them the benefit of the doubt the president.
And the general because there isn't evidence not to and that's -- fair people do even if you don't agree with their policies whatever.
If there's no evidence of the contrary you give them the benefit of the doubt they come -- they say what they say.
But but the president with Charlie Rose looked a little tentative not let's -- and he's not telling the truth.
But it wasn't like boom you know this is gonna happen it's an outrageous -- -- saying this.
This is disgrace that this -- he can do that is much more.
Laid back I guess is the word.
And I would expect a little indignation.
From a man whose whole administration is tottering now under one allegation after another wouldn't you.
-- I think you're right if you watched him he only wanted to say.
Very can't or -- very.
You know and rose four all in the say they have forced him to say they have it right well the reason is if your president you don't know.
Every detail if it turns out that there was not authorize their -- discovered -- listening in.
Alexander -- probably take the hit.
But the president would look as if you -- covering up.
So you -- want to say stuff if you can't be 100% sure but I don't think that's a cover up the way I think he was covering up -- the bad -- -- The way obviously is with the IRS in the sense that he sort of washes -- And pretends it hasn't meant nothing to do it isn't even liberals are exactly you can talk about it.
He thinks he can hide on this and I think that really surely isn't was there a conspiracy in which Obama in -- his.
His underlings instructed.
The IRS agents to go after conservatives.
I think it's a conspiracy in plain -- Obama made speeches in the summer 2000 intent -- -- openly talked about these shadowy conservatively.
The groups who are he said not only a threat to Democrats but a threat to democracy itself.
He said they could be hiding.
Foreign donors they could be hiding all kinds of things well that's a signal it's not a conspiracy.
But it's clearly authorization sort of in principle.
And it's kind of sending the message you know if you want to please the president you want to please the administration.
Go after the tea parties.
All right -- thanks as always we appreciate -- on the run.
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