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Fact involved segments and I ripping off the American taxpayers you may know the nation knows -- seventeen trillion dollars a disaster.
And one of the reasons for that is incredible dad that the federal government runs up -- wasting money.
Here's -- a good example.
There's a program call lifeline that costs us 2.2.
Billion dollars a year.
That entitlement provides a discount on phone service for low income Americans also some phone companies give away telephones as part of the lifeline situation.
In 2008 the lifetime budget was 822 million bucks last year that had risen to an astounding 2.2 billion under the Obama administration.
Recently a whistle -- a group called project Veritas truth in Latin.
Launch an undercover investigation of the program one of the undercover stops Philadelphia.
You know on the -- giving.
Okay yeah I think you're not.
And -- didn't -- it didn't hit it further mystery.
-- -- So the free phone can be sold for drugs in the lifeline worker doesn't seem to care.
Similar thing happened in Minneapolis.
2.2 billion lot of laughs with a -- James O'Keefe the president of project Veritas and the author of the new book breakthrough.
Our guerrilla war to expose fraud and save democracy.
So first was a little confusing here these telephones aren't given away by the government.
They're given away by private phone companies that are hiding in.
To this lifeline program explain that that's right there's there's a federal program called lifeline they receive about 2.2 billion dollars here.
And they get corporate subsidies to -- -- corporate subsidies to companies like terra common.
This -- this program in Philadelphia stand up wireless.
And they in turn get the money and they -- -- the phones using your dollars its fees on your cellphone bill.
Through -- your fees surcharges on your phone all right so the government gives tax money to these phone companies.
And they can do -- do whatever they want with the money but they have to subsidize.
Poor people in getting wireless communication can -- with the help poor people what we found is that in fact hurts poor people on -- even benefit wealthy individuals these.
CEOs in donors that -- that receive money from this program people like Carlos Slim receive ten dollars per phone.
Each -- has given -- -- there's an -- had a slim was the world's richest man had a he'd benefit by this -- program -- he gets ten dollars per phone.
Because he's one of the recipients of the money that.
What I -- federal money is coming into -- company.
Right 1000000000010 box and then he.
Institutes lifeline program as he sees fit he gives for discounted.
Phone call low rates and things like that -- are.
Now dot com.
When you do something like this you're always going to be -- accused of you know sliding the poorest nation to have this -- -- got to lift the mop and you say why.
I say that this would like all the things we've done project Veritas and an investigation into a lot of different organization Medicaid fraud acorn fraud.
Voter fraud all the time every time we do an investigation enforces a response forces people to resign at the Philadelphia company fired all the guys that you it's -- to cell phone for -- -- -- -- -- -- -- every single personally visited.
Advised us we can sell the -- for drugs so it's not just an isolated I believe it is either I think you're absolutely on target I think these entitlement programs totally out of control.
Sort of make you -- for a minute you became famous when you were convicted of the misdemeanor for breaking into -- senator Mary Landrieu is office right.
And you parole was up June 1 and I are free guy right I'm a free man it was actually probation probation I'm sorry -- you go to prison.
You write about it in the book which you defend yourself you say you didn't commit any crime.
Yeah we've been through and in -- in the book the breakthrough book is incredible because it takes human journey through all the things you've been through.
The government destroyed my evidence in Louisiana and charged with a crime being committed but why do you fight -- then why did -- take it up to jury why did you -- -- didn't have any money it's hard you know -- give a lot of obstacles couldn't get a pro Bono -- down at a -- and we -- week I had got a great lawyer but when you're dealing in the -- you know the federal circuit down there it's very challenging and destroyed or evidence.
And those -- that's not the only thing we dealt with we did voter fraud investigations last year change the laws of the few states is no doubt James Jim -- and I mean c'mon.
Your target you know your high profile guy going around embarrassing.
The liberal entitlement programs -- -- and after you.
I don't know whether I would have -- that out if you really felt that you wore a guilty of a crime going back I -- I would've done things different I never would have anticipated they would have.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The book is about my journey it's about the price -- to pay because it's not going to be some politician.
For some media -- probably gonna save us it's going to be what normal citizens.
Paying a price exposing fraud because sunlight is the best -- in fact it's the best weapon.
Against fraud and corruption the book is breakthrough James thanks for coming and we appreciate it thank you for that we got right back is.
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