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Now the NSA's secret spy program vigorously defended we watched a lot of that yesterday during our program.
And rare public testimony the agency's chief general Keith Alexander saying that.
The government surveillance efforts stopped at least ten terror attacks on the homeland.
And scores of them overseas.
Dating back to 9/11 this is part of the headline here.
In recent years.
These programs together with other intelligence.
Have protected the US and our allies from terrorist threats.
Across the globe.
To include helping prevent the terrorist the the potential terrorist events.
Over fifty times since 9/11.
Let me start by saying that I would much rather be here today debating this point.
Been trying to explain how we failed to prevent another nine elevenths that was quite a statement from yesterday in New York congressman Peter King sits on the intelligence and -- homeland security -- -- back community -- -- good morning to you.
-- ago were you aware of fifteen plots.
Disrupted since 9/11.
We can -- a number of them last week.
I like I was you can track over the years there we monitor the NSA program.
-- our agenda comes into -- with us.
And there's any number of them that we have been told love.
But exact number of known fact -- probably more than fifty.
Fifty is the amount that they feel it -- to some detail on as as time goes -- saying it's more than about it more than -- or could basically bit.
Again it depends on how you did describe what -- what role was played what information was given.
But I I -- go general Alexander when he says you know about fifty.
But there's others that also could be related to the other number you said was twenty different countries were you aware of that.
Yes we are aware that this program was extremely helpful -- -- the country store the country's.
In -- -- record this Serb news first broke several weeks ago.
We're the first people defend the program was a British foreign minister -- who came out and -- -- essential program has not.
What do you think his testimony did.
A special -- for the American public.
The concerns they had and that they still have today.
Well I would hope that it.
Alleviated many of those concerns you showed how safe the program is.
How in the twelve years the program has been there's not one evidence of abuse and how tightly controlled but is by the courts.
By the Justice Department by the congress and also later on in his testimony was they were showing.
It's actually yet there's far more powers given any organized crime page story narcotics case.
As far as wiretapping ability whether -- out what what about the stock exchange case to the New York Stock Exchange plot that.
I don't think -- public before was it.
No in -- and that's the part of the problem I believe in this case it took them a week to get.
To be able described the case publicly yeah we met in private with the general -- -- last week.
And the concern they have is there when you go Paul what are you going to be -- off the enemy through the actual methods and operations we -- also.
Could we be compromise you know -- investigation or.
Could we be compromised one of our foreign allies because very seldom do you find these -- one on one cases often.
It's information we get from allies they get from us it's all part of a mosaic.
And he'd want to do anything at all it was gonna anyway.
Infringe on another -- thought have to register.
It seemed to be that was the explanation he was putting for they have to talk to some governments overseas to make sure.
That they're comfortable going public as well what would have been very interest and be in that meeting with you last week on that.
But here is the continuing aggravation of a lot of people why do you have to collect everybody's number.
Course if you don't have all of them -- The system is a complete those numbers are kept well that's what it writing it why -- -- -- number what are they need your number how does that make -- system and completes.
Because you can't just.
Which one number from the young bats which would could potentially the next five years he involved in a terror case they wanna have the full.
Full array of numbers -- that any time the next five years if they number comes up.
They can then drill into find out who in this country spoke to -- how it's very hard to decide -- food and and -- not to implode during the time those numbers are -- they were in effect and lock box no one has any access to them.
Whatsoever and that just numbers and number and the duration of the call and if -- -- -- complete -- -- how you decide -- filter out before you know.
Before you win.
I understand the way -- explain I just don't think it's enough to convince people the argument anyway got to decide to be continued right and 152 the president was asked about this earlier today in Berlin.
-- did you wonder why he was on explaining this to the American people before he went overseas.
-- abilities and I support program -- having said that I think the present the United States should have gone on television explained the program forward.
And also he hurt himself by saying you know last month that pretty much we're back to pre 9/11 the war against terrorism -- winding down.
Well that's the case why have these -- powers they are expensive.
The only reason I'm supporting them.
Is because I believe the war on terrorism is still very real and very deadly the president is trying to have -- both ways saying the war's almost over.
-- I need these powers he should have a I think a primetime address the nation.
-- didn't have and I think -- I -- myself a lot of people would carry similar opinion sir thank you for your time today I'm out of time here but.
We will speak again Peter King thank you congressman from New York.
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