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Until now back to one of our top stories of the day the fighting congress over immigration reform last hour we interviewed the two Republican sponsors -- they newly unveiled amendment.
That requires steps congressman's take before a deal is made one of the main requirements.
Is building an additional 350 miles of border fence that's in addition to the 350 miles -- already exist.
Our next guest had -- serious issues at the border fence period he says quotes the border security fence in the senate bill.
Would be America's Berlin Wall.
A historic embarrassments that we'll sit in the desert sun and -- and become part of the Republican party's permanent political legacy.
Here's how senator holding one of the co sponsors that that for a -- amendment respondents in these -- last hour.
He can't have it both ways -- you to secure the border or you don't.
Securing the border also means that you take away the incentive to come here illegally if you have a mandatory nationwide.
He could come here illegally if they can get across the border which they can't because we're -- -- security.
They are not going to be able get a job because an employer won't be able to hire.
So you also have a guest worker program that allows them to come here legally and go back home -- you take away the incentive to come illegally.
And you secure the border.
Daniel head injury -- the deputy editorial page editor of the Wall Street Journal he's the one that wrote about the border fence being like the Berlin Juan you said -- had quite they act.
Their reaction from the public in general -- you think about what senator -- had to say this is just part of a more comprehensive plan when it comes to security.
That's true agenda and done how I'd like the second half of what senator Holden said about.
Which would allow people to come in.
Legally through the normal ports work and then go home when there is no more work.
You would not have to spend forty billion dollars fortifying the border between the United States and Mexico because no one would want to come across.
The border like that as he's suggesting if there was a program in place so why -- we.
Want to spend forty billion dollars and a rate 40000.
Border patrolman along that border when.
What he's proposing in the second half -- -- bill will make it unnecessary.
I'm saying is just like we do for your home right you have blocks in the door you might have offense that -- alarm system we just put a couple different things out because you wanna be the most you -- -- -- and -- I have deposits that audience there are viewers are hearing -- -- getting some feedback in my ear but what about.
What about that.
The problem what that Janet is I think that.
The people who want the border secured are being misled by this argument that it is simply not feasible it is never going to be possible to secure the border to 90% effectiveness which is the number that's in the bill that any candidate's version yeah I thought that you should -- 900 of every thousand people trying to get across.
The border extending from Tijuana in the west to Brownsville Texas in the east is 1969.
It's a very in hospitable environment if you take that distance and stretch it.
From San Diego northward it goes all the way to Chicago across five or six states.
If you look at that line the idea that you're somehow going to prevent 90% of people from trying to get across that is simply never going to work.
And then our screen for our viewers need to check it out as well adjusted and Dan's point here here's the other side of -- -- This amendment would bring that amendment that -- and worker offering.
Bring the border fence a seven -- miles and that's with the Department of Homeland Security working with Border Patrol says is -- 700 miles that can actually have a -- If you look at where the fence went up in areas at Imperial Beach in Chula Vista stations that we looked at this data according to Border Patrol.
Between -- out of the 19932004.
They -- reduction of apprehension.
By over 90% over that -- your period.
As some say that's -- -- just more technology more people -- being on the border and maybe some of these that folks that we're trying to cross their cross in another place.
But doesn't that statistic impress you that that more than that there's a 90%.
Jump in apprehensions just where that border fence when -- doesn't that prove it works.
It proves that what they did tonight on tonight at what the attempts that have been there have been many serious attempts in put in place to try do.
Cross border crossing -- by illegal aliens.
The question is.
Why do we need to go.
All the way towards trying to secure the entire border.
As a provision to getting this bill passed it's a kind of concedes I think people have in their mind.
That if they can believe that the entire 2000 mile border is somehow secure.
They'll feel better about it but that's never going to happen until the efforts they've made have been fairly successful in.
Pushing back against.
-- live on to hunt the Republican Party explain why you believe that.
You're talking about an enormous array of technology hundred foot towers about 18100 of -- congress is going to have to appropriate money continuously over a long period of time to keep those in place to make sure the technology works.
In that environment Jenna a lot of this is going to a road it's going to become an eyesore and I think it's but -- could become an embarrassment to the United States.
That we've tried to create.
This huge wall between two countries are -- to be a more intelligent way to solve the problem and I think the second half of what senator -- -- was describing.
Is that more intelligent way guest worker program and.
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