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Never let a scandal go to waste and when it comes -- -- NSA don't do unions know it.
Hello everyone I'm Charles -- if for Neil Cavuto.
A union saying this guy is proof we need more government workers according to a new report they're ready for a new fight.
Against hiring outside contractors while pushing for more federal workers at security jobs.
Then are you telling a little insecure.
To Ben Stein today sounds -- cal bomb along with Adam Lashinsky and Charlie Gasparino -- today.
What do you think.
There is no proof that contractors -- a bad job for us with our security.
This is and how liar event one yachts that should be arrested I do not want any union employees.
Put down our throats in the security business.
That'll affect us going forward I want good people run in the shall.
You know -- and there's also a report out Friday.
That says even though the NSA has ruled on how to handle our communications or somebody gray areas -- wiggle room if you will.
That it all it's all kind of spooky anyway.
It is an -- borrow something I'd have Adams might very well say well of course the unions -- gonna try and increase their ranks which you know theoretically if you had more.
Government workers verses.
Private contractors that would happen I actually I totally agree with Gary K that this is a one off he said -- I said Davis last week.
And you can have.
You can -- you can have is -- is there.
Nobody Megan you admit you can -- people who leak confidential information if they work for the government.
Would you call Melissa Laura I -- private Bradley Manning is the example of not being with then that exist somewhat -- infrastructure I.
I've done a lot of reporting -- with whistle blowers -- all insane to a certain extent so we shouldn't expect that much different from this guy.
Yeah I do have a little bit of a problem though farming this sort of sort of essential stuff out to.
To contract is I think you know we don't form out the police department we don't farm out the fire department.
Why should we before farming out surveillance I mean there is a degree of sexually -- this federal workers and we can all sleep well tonight I'm not saying that I'm saying we have more control in house there's more controlled the police department's -- house is more control the fire department because -- in house and this I believe.
Is an essential service keeping us safe we should probably keep an in house.
-- -- -- -- I could not agree more with Charlie Gasparino did they idea that these guys.
Outside contractors have access to the my record as every single person in America if not -- -- -- world.
Is insane and I think -- -- at a minimum the government emblazoned subject to whatever laws divided government employees including -- that.
Very good all I was -- is that whether they're within the government or outside contract value it are not badly if they're not.
Properly managed then they're going to leak anyway regard let me yeah.
Please log on -- level there's one more level between the government supervision and the and and the economy actor right then there is -- Zagreb government blowing whistling -- -- -- -- of -- -- -- momentum they have ever right now.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- First of all this says of course as everybody as all of you and everybody watching knows has nothing whatsoever to do with -- -- we might -- this program bashing unions weekly because that's the setup for this segment I don't know -- -- -- -- We got it turns out of every now and I don't understand it's the same way I look at it won't want to -- -- -- -- 12 Charlie this is good to playbook of the TSA in other words it's a big body you know it starts out independently but -- seen them.
You go after you now you have a giant you know you -- your membership I mean that's.
We've seen this play -- go work and operated upon at at.
Let me just speak to that child because -- right -- -- that's exactly what you would expect in the organization's leadership to do.
The point here is what we what we can make a generalization about in this country.
Is that we've let this idea that you should farm everything out to contractors run -- it is not.
Always the best thing.
To farm to let the market decide how these things well done well there again key announcements on the government should be done by government employees that's the point here OK did you know about him or talk about things run amok -- running amok.
As is not that these guys aren't unionized but just the bill do abuse of power -- all the gray areas that -- as they seem to have these days.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- All all I -- interest -- -- is the best people in this job.
The -- security is being number one most important thing this country.
But we need practice are voicing our union member I'm not saying yes I'm not been outlets and all I'm not saying they're not if it's from their -- give me the best people.
My issue was when they use this as a wedge to get in there and get more -- -- out of their employees it right idiocy of these obviously we just.
Well and one hell or heaven but I don't how to delegate and to add to that point OK the IRS.
All these -- -- -- evidence that.
-- million dollars in bonuses this.
What happened so OK maybe and maybe maybe -- Look -- layer of accountability with respect to management but.
Certainly -- -- unions take over there's all you can't Byron body and they always get paid seven million dollars in admits that this crisis -- -- -- You don't need it basically you could be screwed up and BI and be managed by the government witnesses -- -- -- arrest.
And I would argue that when you put some bodies profits and you put their business at risk.
Those companies moving forward that are private contractors by the government the government bears down on them.
You better damn well be sure that they're going to be -- people from -- -- -- doesn't actually I.
Hey I delineated the didn't yet the union sentiment here is such a thin reed I mean.
It's it's a -- and I mean that's a fact is the unions will benefit from this still be more union workers if they move this in the house so that it's fair that that is what -- taxpayers back is that is an on that that's a content I.
I got a reason why we're doing this by the way the point to point out let me just make my point -- you should point out when you form out a lot of stuff.
Farm out prisons which they've done a lot of abuse occurs because there is a dividing line between government.
And private business I'm just saying that you have about it.
Third up top a secret up top security clearances that are -- they are outside contractors right now.
I don't see the harm -- that despite this we watch jerk we should it went on an outside contrary to your.
That's like -- perfect results -- lousy jobs at background checks they -- among the worst.
Let's bring in -- got good.
Did get done -- he did not see that there that there is is missing layer right as as Charles but it of accountability and we surely a woman as brilliant as uses them as a player and accountability these guys -- party animals look I know these I've -- them.
Party animals they're not they do or.
Met our gentle my love -- and some right I but I'm not a believer that we will do a better job.
At fighting terror -- on it with it if you've basically make all of these workers 100%.
Within the got a -- I've got to believe that.
Now don't add -- I know why -- such a foregone conclusion that.
By padding the bureaucracy of government that is that's gonna make this program better because -- -- -- -- library do it's I I don't I I have lost so let's break and I think the viewers here this intimate and government run things.
I quite understand that I just -- and I don't agree that there were in the realm of opinion but we're also in the realm of deal -- to philosophical approaches to dig instead.
If you hire a contractor then you can hold their feet to the fire.
I would say you hire a contractor they're motivated to make the best profit they ran as they should by the way.
They will cut costs are we in order to do that unless you let it all -- -- revenue increases -- lighter and I thought Charles you are in the you raised on the Israelis and wanna see -- then why -- the police generally do good job.
And the police who good job of part of part of it is about how far the partly -- great job here in New York our youngest out there aren't -- good job right this is an -- aren't.
Does a good job and private Bradley Manning -- classic I didn't.
I ended that would prevent what -- what is the art.
And that an essential service just because it's the government just because they might have to be the union is gonna do a job I'm -- -- -- -- -- -- -- okay -- -- you got the last word on this.
One of the argument is simple we just want the best people whether it's from the unions -- not the issue which is using the political side of that.
-- would have to one guy who -- -- already called them a few names.
And using that to get up more of -- people and they are I don't want that I want things done right I want the best people for the job.
All right and I think we all agree and that then will agree to disagree with persons with respect to whether unions bring accountability Woolsey.
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