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You're looking now at live pictures of the airport in Moscow -- Tennessee leaker Edward Stone is believed to have just landed minutes ago airport officials say the plane has landed an airport in the city of Moscow.
The website WikiLeaks is -- and reached out to them to help him get out of Hong Kong safely.
I cannot be independently verify but that's what they're -- So the question is is -- -- a hero or is he a -- joining us now to consider that doctor Ben Carson he of course is the former director pediatric neurosurgery.
At Johns Hopkins hospital doctor Carson thanks a lot.
For joining us so give us the moral context for this how should we regard.
Well I'm not sure that it's necessary first to actually put any labels on him.
What we should be looking at is what can we learn from this situation.
They are probably other people.
Who -- and sensitive positions.
Who perhaps have information that would be useful.
For the American people than but you have to understand that there is a proper way in order to.
To disseminate that information and this was not done in the proper way.
So in we shouldn't so much concentrated on him as making it.
Information available to other people who may have important information for us.
-- it's it is absolutely.
Important that we know what's being done and what's being monitored.
Because people act differently they -- things differently when they know that they're being monitored that's why when you go into a store.
There's a sign that this is you are being videos.
And do you know the secrecy that is going on right now.
Coupled with the apparent.
Dishonesty in government.
Obviously has heads.
Dampened the enthusiasm from people about in the veracity of their government.
But don't the two go hand in hand doesn't secrecy inevitably lead to.
To dishonesty in the same way that power inevitably corruption what you're doing is -- from public view it's much more likely.
To be wrong is -- not of course.
That is it's one of the very things that they were the founders were afraid.
And talked about.
You know that the government would get progressively bigger and bigger now basically the government has -- to the point now where it's like a morbidly obese person sometimes we hear these stories about these 14100 pound people who can't do anything except eat.
Well you know basically that's how our government has gotten -- it needs all of these calories all the time basically our money.
And if if we were to started a little bit.
And hit it down to a reasonable size it would be much fitter and much more edge now and much more effective.
So to continue the metaphor what -- actual surgery that's what the government.
-- -- Richard Simmons to show up and help cut down a wall and have veto that the patient moved out on the on on some sort of earth moving equipment or what do we do.
Well I I certainly think that gradual decrease in the calories would be extremely effective.
And and we need to do it you know the sequestration has demonstrated that.
You know we we we cut back on the money even though certain people try to make it as painful as possible.
It actually is having ameliorate -- effect on the economy and that should be a lesson to us.
That is the -- on often not remarked upon phenomenon and I appreciate your bringing it up and by the way doctor congratulations for our viewers who don't know.
Doctor -- just completed his final surgery.
After I think about 171000 surgeries over the course of your crew which is amazing thank you for things -- did.
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