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A lot of the senate floor and I a lot of activity there but the votes are still coming -- the voters still.
Open on this controversial amendment known as the surge amendment to put forward by -- But winning cork or -- the reason is still open actually the tally now is 664.
The amendment 26 against eight outstanding senators they needed sixty votes to pass the threshold.
Looks like they have that but since the -- still open senators could change their boast the reason they left it open.
Because the weather here in Washington is bad in many senators are stuck at the airport.
And that racing now from.
Washington's Reagan national to.
To try to vote.
With that let's listen to us some of the back and forth -- that.
If this amendment is passed even though there may be people who vote against the overall bill.
Voting for this amendment strengthens the bill sets that if we pass that we have a bill in my opinion.
That meets the test of the American people we're securing the border.
But we're allowing those people at the back of -- line that have some pathway to continue.
To lead of the American during.
I think the -- was in big trouble last week.
As a result.
It's -- to live up to the promises that this gang a base -- made.
And I think god this amendment will also suffer from credibility problem.
Were back with the panel Charles your thoughts on this amendment it looks like it's in the pass supporters want to get to seventy.
To you cannot have a big number.
What do you think write a big number -- over on the house and to force it.
Signature on the on the the president -- desk but look I think.
The problem with the core -- amendment is this.
It's a shock and -- approach it through it throws everything of the problem tons of money 20000 new border agents it does all that.
But it does not make the in the enforcement.
And -- success and enforcement a requirement.
And that's the problem -- -- goal it'll be exactly like the goals.
-- had a 1986.
That gave -- the problem today.
Look everybody who's supporting the bill was citing the CBO estimate.
About how it's going to increase.
Our economy how it's kind of would give money in century also.
To the government.
But also in the CBO report is an assumption that under the bill in ten years -- -- and have another five.
Which means that we will reach the eleven million.
In lesser time -- it took from the last embassy to get the current eleven million.
And unless you've got something so if you're admitting that.
What you're saying is in -- who really is simply.
A fig -- it looks as if -- doing a lot but there's no guarantee and without it.
Woo -- without a statement that you do not get a green card.
And citizenship unless the border is closed all you have a promises.
And a lot of -- you've got to have the output.
Well I guess you know to me this is we're playing politics here pandering in my opinion or use this whole border security thing.
It's -- people who think that the big problem right now is on that southern border with Mexicans coming over.
And in fact is you know there is at the moment I met outward flow given the recession in the life.
And secondly there's been so many improvements in terms of border security I think it's now we have had a 750%.
In spending over the budget.
Proper customs and Border Patrol over the last few years Obama's deporting more illegal immigrants than ever any president in American history.
We've gone from having 4000 Border Patrol agents in the -- over 21000.
This to me this is like people who are looking for a reason to say.
We don't want immigration reform and I think that's pandering to people who are just anti immigrant in our society.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- of workers push back on that as saying it's been on.
Posted for quite some time.
Your thoughts about if this amendment really gets them the votes they need.
Here in the senate and if it affects the house at all.
It may get them votes than in the senate I think it well how much impact will have in the house I'm not so sure about that momentum argument I think the house is one ago.
Want to do their own thing.
-- my problem is I think there's a fundamental dishonesty in this debate and again I understand why the Republicans are doing the border security first.
Approach but you are leading the public to believe that the key to reducing.
He illegal immigration in this country is more border security.
There's nothing in our recent immigration history suggests.
That's the case again we've beefed up border in the past under Clinton we did it in San Diego we did and now passed so we thought the Arizona -- keep them out.
They've moved groaning coming and other ways two things reduce illegal immigration to the US one of the -- US economy.
Which attracts fewer workers and the second thing is giving people more legal ways to come.
And this -- is emphasizing border security at the expense of doing things that we know work because they've worked in the past.
So Jason if the reasons that defense you know that hasn't work.
Is because if you stop -- -- they gonna go in there with a new friends of those there.
Few friends -- entirely on the -- whether we have not the borders to thousands of miles did exactly 350.
There's a single strand which has no effect we've that was the popular third -- six -- miles -- Double fencing.
The 2000 mile border we have never had a a barrier that would.
Was ever -- Memphis says -- know this amendment says it would double the 350 miles of pedestrian fencing already deployed.
To 700 miles of fence and -- -- strand which does not work.
We got a problem is people flying into the country and overstayed their -- 40% right there and I think that's the big ticket this border thing is just ridiculous that this -- think it's like you you're you're on the beat know we're going to talk about this wall thing in a lot of other things are all week longer on this debates and thank you very much by the way the senate floor 6726.
Arriving from the airport voting.
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