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Continuing now with the manhunt for NSA leaker Edwards Snowden and the political implications of his game of hide and seek.
Last year President Obama proudly said yeah.
-- around the world the United States is leading once more.
From Europe Asia.
Our alliances are stronger than up today we can say with confidence and pride.
The United States is stronger and safer and more respected in the world.
The president and if that's true why are so many -- countries -- -- -- noses at us by helping Snowden of course avoid extradition.
And still seem to be one step ahead of US authorities.
Is -- administration bears now that you can't track about -- he's.
It's cat and mouse game that's going on for all the world to see we have known where he is and believe we know where he is now -- and there are ongoing conversations about that.
Okay joining us now from Washington with reaction Fox News contributors Juan Williams and Mary Katharine Ham let's start with you Mary -- Look I'm I'm seeing this play out I think it's a long way from that 200000.
Person audience -- landline.
It was the beginning of the globe bomb on -- he could do no wrong in the world -- gonna -- they're all gonna sing in perfect harmony.
And now it turns out that even Ecuador could probably summits and hoses out and Ecuador.
Let's -- -- Yeah I mean when it comes to -- himself -- sort of in the middle what I'm happy to examine his motives and acknowledge that like when you indulge in Civil Disobedience part of the risk is that you will be.
Punished on the other hand I'm more -- and exactly how the NSA spying goes down I'm glad we know something about -- -- and can examine it but -- the larger point of this run from block here is that doesn't sort of reveal.
And ineffectiveness at an ineptitude that makes me concerned about what is going on at the NSA and how they're able to competently allegedly competently.
Deal with all this information in this system of of doing things where's the payoff on the -- on the Smart power that we've been engaged in for all these years it doesn't.
Doesn't make me feel great about the whole system.
Yeah I'm Antoine I'm thinking we have Snowden in Hong Kong.
We couldn't track him down there I mean we didn't even -- invested as Mary Katherine Nicholas intimate.
How hundreds of billions of dollars on this high tech you know security equipment we should we should feel -- no where he has we even know really if he's still in Russian right now.
So aside from the fact that it's really embarrassed saying.
It is very interesting question are we getting a bang for our buck with all the money we're standing -- all this hi tech surveillance information.
You guys are way -- in the weeds here that high tech surveillance information has been protecting us as Americans from terrorism.
I would Snowden is like -- you know.
I mean that in the in your face of the summer picnic I mean he's irritating.
But let's not confuse the idea of why we have that surveillance with tracking -- -- and besides even if we tracked him down in Hong -- -- like we could do.
You know rock roused him out they -- stick him on a plane -- that's illegal.
We tried to do it through legal channels and what's happened here is that the Chinese have thumbed their nose that is the Russians aren't -- that.
Believe I really think they're -- her lies why do you think that what you think -- -- feel like they can do that and today after.
Four and a half years of hope and change in the White House why do you think they feel.
How -- be doing it no matter fairway is the Republican or Democrat in the White House I think this is President Putin for his part and you know the Russians believe that the NSA was spying on.
Dmitry Medvedev back at the I think it's been very group -- wake up as that was held in Britain.
So they feel like this is -- you know the Chinese feel like it's payback because the United States.
Has been pointing fingers at the Chinese for hacking computers America matters.
We couldn't pay them back now we want a team from among nearly all want now that's a different name to -- -- I got to get to know why the -- that's bond he had no I got down this season you know what I want I got is to set aside who's in the White House forget.
Obama forget the that the promise of a -- and all that.
At this point in time we have a guy who's been labeled a -- Someone has done enormous damage by our FBI director by -- CIA director by the NSA chief by the president by John Boehner.
And Mary -- We don't know if he's in Russia.
Yeah early in the rest is just don't care we want to back and so so -- -- that reset button that Hillary missed translated.
I do that Russian leader.
Right and that that's the deal like he's either -- -- or -- Police car he inflicted all this incredible damage and if he is in fact -- the status of a nap but can inflict this incredible damage but there's something wrong with the actual system and I would like to.
Address that but yeah.
First though they never apparently issued what's called a red notice an Interpol that would -- made him unstoppable at various at various airports so.
The sort of level of ineptitude of the federal government in tracking somebody like this.
Brings concern to be larger operation and whether they can safely or competently deal with large amounts of private data of American citizens why does that -- -- That's -- -- too easily to the today you know collection dragnet of data.
I think it's -- -- Mary -- I mean what I see is you can say listen and I know you're very sensitive about.
The NSA program and you think it's a violation of civil liberties.
But what I'm saying is that up but their conduct of that program which is about stopping terrorism detecting patterns of communication and you know they end up by the court to try to keep it from being -- -- domestically.
That's separate from what's going out with Snowden and we couldn't have -- god want it and extract different -- -- and it.
That is the exact same people that are.
Dealing with that and they're bad at doing both my guys I mean I -- I can't degrade the president and handling our relationship with Russia and China today what grade would you give him.
I hadn't thought about it but it's I guess I get my B or C I mean that this thing is you know -- I promise you great not a curve I thought I thought my alma mater is that that's a wicked son.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- talking to the fans the tigers exactly I'll wanna make Katherine thanks so much and.
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