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Any impact segment tonight where on earth is Edwards Snowden.
The NSA -- searching for asylum after disclosing classified info about America's national security programs.
Over the weekend he fled from Hong Kong to Moscow and the White House isn't happy about it.
We are just not buying.
That this was a technical decision by -- Hong Kong immigration official this was a deliberate choice.
By the government to release a fugitive despite a valid arrest warrant and that decision unquestionably.
Has a negative impact on the US China relationship.
And today President Obama was asked if he spoke with Russian president Vladimir Putin.
What we know is we're following all the appropriate legal channels.
And working -- various other countries make sure that.
Rules laws -- and -- at all.
Refer to the Justice Department that has been actively involved and.
That's according to the latest report Snowden is now trying to get to Ecuador.
Is expected to be -- a flight from Moscow to Cuba this morning but ended up and no shell and US officials believe he is still in Russia joining me now is mark Mukasey.
A former federal prosecutor who has worked on extradition cases.
Now -- this is amazing so we have all these issues outstanding with Russia right now -- -- -- -- the Russian adoption.
And now this we think he still in Russia but we really don't.
Now do -- we we don't know how to pay this the best laid expedition plants can go awry I've extradited.
Hundreds of people from Colombia.
This process can be -- with paperwork it can be.
Jammed up for years.
In a case like this you'd think that they would streamline it they don't get it right.
Do it right it's an urgent case -- is an exception an extradition matters for urgent cases.
So Hong Kong we hear from China all the papers aren't quite in order.
I think something wasn't right right in the form -- -- all things like that you know.
And -- kind of excuse me they knew it was important to us and the fact is China and Russia have no interest state interest in rushing this along themselves they want to find out what this guy knows if they can't.
To get the paperwork in order it's pretty easy give -- -- certified copy the arrest warrant -- translated.
Copy of the complaint.
Give me an affidavit from the prosecutor that says.
I want to know what the charges is in -- with charges -- let me understand what the evidence is that's the paperwork that you have to -- I'm -- that was.
There's -- question mark about.
Why it took them so long to revoke his passport.
Was curious to me and I wrote my first heard of him for -- -- -- -- his his passport is yet but it took.
What five days six somebody hitting on it took five or six days.
The bottom line here is that.
There's that moment in time when this passes from the Justice Department.
To the State Department.
And it becomes a matter of policy and -- becomes a matter of foreign relations.
The Justice Department part of this.
I'm sure was -- well the office of international affairs does this every single day in matters that are urgent and it matters that are not so we're just.
At some point this becomes -- State Department problem.
So this is a John Kerry -- -- he cannot today is obviously is very concerned very distressed about Russia and and China kind of slow walking this whole process.
But -- that when you look at this today -- it says some much beyond the legal round.
It says a lot about the way other countries view us whether they are a little bit fearful of us they don't want to take us off or whether they frankly think.
Make us what are we what are we gonna do about it.
When there's some there's some this is a subtext here going on beyond the niceties of the legal process and I think beyond the niceties of legal prizes at some point you have to say you know what.
We didn't dot every I or cross every T twelve times the way you wanted it.
At some point with the United States this guy has engaged in.
Violations of the Espionage Act.
Get him here I don't care how have a Julian Assange is in Ecuador himself he -- at that he's at the they -- an advantage there right.
So he's able that -- and London think he's able to stay there I mean I always do with Julia and it's times.
So the so our concern is gonna go to -- -- Snowden was charged with two counts of violation of the Espionage Act.
There's also a provision of the Espionage Act it's as if you're harboring or concealing or helping someone who's violated the Espionage Act you should be indicted he should be indicted.
OK so that it lets say he ends up flying to Ecuador.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- They have a at political issue going on and Snowden is gonna say listen.
I'm afraid of being persecuted.
You know he's raising money -- I'm afraid of being.
Tortured -- now worse if I get sent back tonight if he's not going to be persecuted he going to be prosecuted as he should be conference in mark thanks so much.
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