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And our Rob Portman accusing the IRS of bullying a small -- groups groups it don't have a lot of money can't afford lawyers.
-- an apartment though he's not the only one and Ohio newspaper reporting.
The Cincinnati IRS office mostly charted smaller groups once it did not have legal representation.
James told citizens -- choir joins us nice to -- is there.
Thank you for having me OK so tell me what is DNA information -- the suggests that the -- targeted group smaller groups without lawyers.
We looked at the nine groups from Ohio and Kentucky that went through this process and were indeed finally did get their tax exempt status approved.
And then you know we've been interviewing him all along and one of them mentioned the fact that he'd -- involving two of them.
And then the one of on that had a lawyer.
That they had had a lawyer and did a more professional.
There is did not get the level of scrutiny that his first attempted.
So that kind of put pull the trigger in my head and I said well maybe I should ask the other ones what -- went through.
And we determined that -- that two of -- Nine groups from Ohio -- Kentucky.
Indeed did not have a lawyer when I first started and they did get the extra question -- -- it appears at the other seven.
While they did get delayed it didn't get put nearly the level like 35 questions it's -- this smaller groups said.
-- -- the question -- window weather is deliberate try and they have basically oppressed people who didn't have the funds of the means to hire a lawyer.
Which -- picking picking on them unfairly.
Or whether it's -- applications because they did it themselves were just more difficult to read and spent more time required more information is there any way to determine which one it is those two.
It really isn't any iris didn't cooperate when my story so you know -- get their side of it is so wide this was this was a potential trend and I do you have.
Anecdotes and examples that this wasn't just limited to Ohio or Kentucky.
But I would say that.
Did the one example that I did talk to there isn't a local organizer who -- up actually start the Cincinnati Tea Party.
He went on to us started umbrella group for Ohio called the -- liberty coalition.
And they were -- did that application by themselves and they were indeed targeted with the questions.
Well he started another group.
Later on hand it back group a wound up and not getting the questioning because indeed he went through.
-- get a lawyer and he even said it looked a lot more professional so.
I did talk to some experts and they said that a lawyer in any situation with the iris is going to help you because it makes you look like you know -- -- doing.
And the iris is gonna take it a little more more for granted that you do you're doing -- -- supposed to be doing you're gonna do what you say you're gonna do.
Let me a lot easier to get the -- the benefit of the doubt if they really did have that transparency the fact that they won't talk to and explain things to and they sort of they do sort of work for -- you'd think that a least I get that information -- How would make him profoundly and Mori's -- give them the benefit of the doubt but stomach -- last word on that thank you -- They are having me.