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No RS director -- were -- saying that the tax agencies targeting Arab groups was much broader than previously thought or reported.
Doug -- always tracking that down reporting live at a Washington what's new and desire S report and.
We'll build -- actually very very little width of the exception that the targeting was broader and lasted longer than had previously been disclosed in fact.
-- -- going on right up until last month.
But the bottom line is the report is a case of the IRS investigating itself so many are skeptical of its chief -- here's IRS's -- were full from yesterday.
Well fact gathering is still under way we have not found evidence of intentional wrongdoing by anyone in the IRS.
Our involvement -- matters by anyone outside the higher.
There is no current evidence -- the use of inappropriate screeners or other types of criteria.
In other -- operations.
Another key finding that the groups using the term progressive were also singled out by the virus but critics are already questioning that funny.
The house oversight committee last night released documents.
The -- Tea Party groups seeking tax exempt status.
Were sent through a special screening process at the IRS while progressive groups were not.
Who did they pick and why they picked people who -- criticizing the president.
That says all you need to know it's no accident they pick conservative groups Tea Party groups who were given Obama a hard time on on many fronts particularly Obama care.
To -- any other dared to reach in other conclusions of certain.
The chairman -- of the house oversight committee added that the finding that there is no evidence yet of intentional wrongdoing.
Can only be called premature so -- -- full apparently also said those tax exempt groups who have been held up for certification.
Can certify themselves.
Regarding their tax exempt status now what does that mean it.
It if they are confident that they are you did entirely within the scope of the law they can do that they -- self certify.
-- themselves in a while it's a very good gesture many Tea Party conservative and pro Israel groups say it cannot undo the damage that was done.
During the last two election cycles that -- the influence and that -- the free speech rights of those targeted groups.
I'm I'm disappointed I'm really disappointed.
That not enough people are saying this is not acceptable I don't.
It's not enough just to have a congressional hearing and then close the books and move on we need to find out what went wrong and why.
And ever one is looking for a quick fix.
At least five senior IRS officials have been removed from the chain of command since we're full.
Took over -- more to come perhaps we'll see then Doug thanks segment cal -- at Washington Martha has more in this.
Does bring in Jordan secular -- he's the executive director at the American center for -- justice and that representing more than 25 conservative groups in this IRS case.
Who believe that they were targeted.
By the IRS Jordan good morning good to have you here morning worth so you know a lot of folks here this -- say hello wolf we'll we thought all along that you know they were only targeting conservative groups -- this really changes the whole dynamic does it not.
You know here here's that the difference though if you go through what was released by congressman Levin heads.
As some kind of revelation that Democrats were jumping up and -- for the left.
That they were target one as we haven't really had these groups come Ford and of course.
There could have been some as -- as Lerner said caught up in the dragnet they've always said that but we see the progressive term used.
It's for 501 C three groups now 51 C three organizations.
Can't be politically involved.
There's also no bar to an IRS -- agent or screener the first -- person who would be able to make a decision.
Saying that one of those groups was or was not you know they should get the tax exemption as a 51 C three.
But you go to the Tea Party listing this redacted.
Bolo be on the lookout list that and it has specific.
It says when you see these you give them over to -- -- said that group that was named.
And the manager and of course there's a group the it's exempt organizations technical that's holly -- who's been put on administrative leave.
And they'll handle it -- Washington -- -- handle it that was not the same for the left.
Here's my question we watched that you know six individuals -- lined up testifying before congress about three years of harassment that day under -- Did was the same thing experience by any of these progressive groups that did fall into the dragnet -- slowest learner.
Called it or did those groups get speedy resolution in their tax exempt status do we now.
Well no they need to come forward you know if they got the questionnaires Martha let's see that.
Let's see that this treatment as well I mean I think there's one thing that it's wrong that they were listing people but it's another that they took the action to actually prevent them.
Not everyone is is qualified to be a five -- C three if you're if you're -- liberal political group you're likely not qualified.
But that our clients the difference was they were waiting for years some still -- waiting.
And they've never gotten an answer not a yes or no -- you know -- -- can't wait three -- argument you know.
-- eight you know in a way I think that he you know it if they were screening for political groups the one of their jobs was to figure out if there was a political affiliation with these groups because if there is.
A clear political connection they should not receive this tax exempt status as they do need ways to sort of go through and figure out which groups -- -- a closer look at correct.
Sure especially for C three applicants you don't -- threes cannot be politically involved.
It's very clear nasty force -- and and I will tell you lassie bark that on this safe harbor.
For the groups have been waiting you know that affects some of our groups are potentially they say they're gonna send a letter out to eighty or so groups.
The pirates is creating a new standard this is something that I've talked about as much yet this 6040 standard that you've got to -- to by penalty of perjury to get the quick.
OK from the IRS 51 -- four status.
That is not the rule the rule is 49%.
To 51% on non political overs political -- -- forced the iris creating a new standard.
-- may be we're looking at right now new level of harassment were -- an amended complaint later probably today.
I had asked -- are one more question about the inspector general.
On that so why wouldn't feed after thirty days of looking into it they found it they water.
I think that what they're saying is that that there were inappropriate list develop these be on the lookout list but I don't know.
That any of the groups were actually.
Mistreated and and how far that went and that's why I think -- -- listen all political viewpoint targeting is wrong whether the Tea Party.
Or progressive and -- that was happening I encourage those groups to come Ford as well and show people because it.
-- -- -- on these groups to -- shows and and how quickly they receive a tax exempt status that that we should have yet to be rushing out you think maybe yeah absolutely I think they'd be rushing out to tell and that's the big question -- -- -- to me.
Jordan thank you very much we'll see yeah.
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