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Welcome back everyone's new -- today about the possibility for peace talks with the Taliban.
After the group claimed responsibility for a -- an early morning attack.
On key buildings near the Presidential Palace and are -- and cobble one of the most heavily fortified areas.
An Afghan capital the Taliban fighters managed to bluff their way past checkpoints.
Before opening fire killing several guards.
The ministry of defense in Afghanistan.
Says the assault was intended.
For our CIA offices.
This all happening a day after Washington sends a special envoy to Afghanistan to gain momentum for negotiations.
Between the local governments and the Taliban.
Daniel Green served in Afghanistan he's now a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.
-- -- -- -- -- Is -- senior correspondent an associate editor at the Washington Post has been a great deal of time in Afghanistan both of our guests have written books about their experience and it's nice to have you both.
With us today Reich let me just start with PO -- -- one of the things that he became a -- in the way that we introduce this segment one of the things that you say it's often.
Is referring to the Taliban like their one big group.
Why is an imported here.
Elbow because the Taliban's comprised of a number of factions and you've got some.
Who may want to to pursue a peace deal with the Afghan government the United States -- you've got other hardline elements.
Who have no desire to seek peace who want to continue fighting continue fighting until they.
Hope to seize control of the entire country and so as the United States moves forward with trying to engage with some moderate members of the Talabani.
We shouldn't be under any delusions that even if we get to some sort of deal and that's a long long way away.
I think the chances are very slim will even get to that -- Any sort of deal like that would end the fighting he might lead to a diminution of violence in some parts of the country but it it certainly won't be a panacea -- end -- this war.
Good -- even our our ambassador though after this attack happened in Afghanistan.
-- it this is this is the response from the ambassador we again call on the Taliban not specific on the Taliban to come to the table to talk to the Afghanistan government.
About peace and reconciliation.
Should that be our response after an attack that supposedly was aimed at.
At one of our facilities.
You know I think what -- thing you -- quick questions as how do insurgencies and you -- -- they sort of rules of thumb in this is served at the end of serve and eventually a negotiation sort of some.
-- -- diplomatic agreement.
I think it's useful to have negotiations -- question of how you go about it.
I think a lot of ways away we've been going through -- so as far as her relatives held on beyond sort of their political strength.
Even their military influence and I think you know president cars that made the observation that.
And when when they tell that are opening offices in Qatar but they have their flag and they have a say -- -- box now.
I think they can elevate them beyond the point of the -- really they're strengthening in the conflict were involved and when -- careful we don't undermine the Afghan government in this for the long term.
Well and speaking of the Afghan government -- just -- -- the map again -- -- like your thoughts on this it it sounds and I don't and I want to overstep here.
That you see the CIA office is on the screen there.
According to officials in Afghanistan government the CIA office is the Canucks in the embassy we know that term -- because we think of Ben Ghazi.
These guys got really close they are trying to kill us still.
And yet we're still trying to engaged them.
At what what is I don't even know what -- question expect our kids -- Disco all of this happening at the same time scenes.
-- -- -- -- -- What well we'll try to look I think the Talabani are adopting the same strategy we end and the Afghan government -- which is to fight.
And potentially talk neither side is looking to sort of put down their weapons anytime soon.
And so what you have here is the Taliban trying to assert -- -- some factions the towel on trying to assert.
-- they still can stage potent spectacular attacks in the Afghan capital.
Ones that gather a lot of attention and freak out Afghans and concern that western diplomats.
And so this is this potentially -- -- negotiating ploy this potentially is assigned by some.
-- -- elements that they don't want peace it's hard to know really what that that the big picture strategy is here.
But -- we have to remember that -- you even even as we start to try to talk about peace he doesn't mean that either side's gonna put down their guns and I'm sitting here.
You're right and that point we're still very much at war but.
-- Afghans know we're leaving lead there is an end date for when we're supposed to put down you know in theory.
Our arms in Afghanistan and -- I wanna get your thoughts after a quick sound bite that we had you know we had to agree guess Ann -- and yesterday young women.
Who is speaking out against the Taliban having any sort of peace negotiations with the United States listen to what she had to say.
What we would -- UNICEF and the stations so it's very confusing and actually an intensely fast but that's enough on woman.
That's enough concept isn't we don't understand Hala these government is willing to negotiate with a -- school bypassing guy like that government.
Daniel how are our peace negotiations gonna help someone like her.
You know I hope to be very frank get me out I'm not us -- -- is speaking with -- -- probably have to be very realistic about what were able to achieve.
There really what is the interest of the colony even in in gauging in conversations like this there's that expression often attributed to the -- one that.
They say you know you in the west have a watch but we have the time.
And -- -- perspective on this conflict as long term.
-- have long range as we have to remember.
The immediate sort of openness to negotiations in many ways.
Just trying to get as much as they can from the US suppression -- Karzai government to get -- concessions they can.
Because the long term the next -- -- chapter next stages conflict the next chapter will be the tell one -- a Karzai administration Afghan government was -- western backers with a much diminished.
Sort footprint in the country.
I think -- be very careful about what.
We just think we can achieve his current conversations and frankly to -- on have an incentive.
To emphasize it more moderate -- public image -- -- waiting for the next chapter to reveal.
What they've long been sort of a -- like Islamist movement.
Very interesting time to see this peace talks that come together.
Rise Daniel great to have you both -- you so much.
Thank you -- you.
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