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Talk about NSA leaker Edwards -- so far he has he -- extradition to the United States both in Hong Kong and now in Russia.
Snowden sat saying now that he took the job with contractor Booz Allen just to gain access to -- SA secrets and his plan all along with.
Was to tell the world about America's top secret surveillance program.
Right now he's holed up somewhere in a Moscow airport hoping to find asylum.
The Obama administration is calling Moscow to hand him over but Russian President Putin says no we will not be extradited.
And the foreign minister said he's not even under Russia's.
When you Mexico's he did not cross the Russian border and we consider absolutely unsupported in in in the -- the attempts which we see now.
The attempts to accuse the Russian sizes of violating US laws.
And almost accusing us -- of participating.
In the conspiracy room.
Which are accompanied by threat received in our direction we're constantly there are no -- grounds for American officials to -- in this -- solutions.
Meantime there's a response from -- Russia should not side with an international fugitive.
Let's talk about what Mike Baker a former CIA Covert operations officer also president of the president of diligence.
A global intelligence and security firm.
So we seem to be at a standoff here right now Mike what leverage does -- -- United States have if any.
With the Russians to try to get them to give up this guy.
-- -- -- As as viewers can see from by the clip that you just let me we have no we have no leverage -- this you couldn't you couldn't make this up.
We were we were.
-- and and and meek and mild mannered and trying to deal with the Chinese I was amazed that we couldn't.
Strong arm or barter or negotiate with the Chinese I was convinced we want to get him handed over while he was sitting in Hong Kong which despite you know -- believe somehow that it's a separate entity is a Chinese.
Now would win with Russia he's sitting in the transit area -- be able airport and the Russians are having so much fun -- this that as you noted the foreign minister -- were off.
Is saying well -- -- hasn't crossed Russian border he's sitting in the transit area -- Europe were in -- parsing words.
Because they're enjoying this so much that we have we have no leverage this isn't massively disappointing situation right now well let me read a statement from Vladimir Putin this according to the Reuters -- -- news agency -- Bruton said.
-- is still a chairman -- -- airport as you mentioned he says he is free to leave and should do so as soon as possible.
Now that seems to be kind of mirror image of what the Chinese did they let him sit there and Hong Kong for awhile kind of you know twisted the knife.
Against us for awhile and then say okay get out here get on your way.
-- you actually right John and that's what they're doing both the Chinese and the Russians.
Are are getting as much enjoyment and PR out of this as possible right up to the point where it could create an actual -- from their perspective international incident.
And I think they're reading this actually correctly foreign leaders tend to be very adept at understanding the substance the core of other foreign leaders and I think they're looking at that the current president here in the United States and picking -- -- a great politician but there's no principle they've seen him back off of a variety of other statements they've seen him shift and we've had -- inconsistent.
Mixed message foreign policy for years now there in the course of this administration.
I think they're reading that absolutely correctly and frankly.
I think they're also understanding the internal politics of the White House better than a lot of people here in the US I think they understand that the White House really doesn't have stomach to get.
Snowden back here and then go -- the spectacle of a trial with -- keeping this on the front pages.
As we move towards the mid term elections apparently Snowdon has these four laptops worth of material that he has basically stolen out of NSA computers do we do we know that the Chinese and now the Russians.
Haven't access to all that.
Now you raise a really important when you look every every US company.
In the private sector that does business in China has an understanding that once they set up a corporate office there or facility that there intellectual property is going to be.
Obtained by the Chinese authorities that's what they've been doing for decades and they're very adept at it the idea that somehow Snowden.
Who is nobody's idea of a Jason Bourne is traveling around what a great deal of classified information.
In Chinese territory and with the Russians it has not somehow managed to lose that intelligence to these very capable -- services.
Is laughable and he was also as he was feeding information to the Chinese about our national security posture towards the Chinese which.
All by itself.
Is is -- is a life.
Or a life sentence -- if you'd imagine if you -- CIA officer you walked and took information out of a safe in the building about a Chinese operation operation that we are running against the Chinese and walked out over the Chinese embassy you would be in -- then for the rest of your life.
And that was it is is what he essentially was doing -- -- -- -- -- While it's really uninteresting situation and we're gonna continue to watch it.
Apparently -- things snow not a get out of Russia but we'll see if they actually enforce that Mike Baker thank you.
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