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Single factor follow up segment tonight NSA's secret -- -- Snowden remains in Moscow airport we here arrived on Sunday.
And the Russians -- refusing to turn him over to the United States for prosecution.
Secretary of state John Kerry addressed the situation today.
For a confrontation about ordering anybody.
We're simply requesting.
Under very normal procedure for the transfer of somebody just as we transferred to rush.
Seven people in the last two years that they.
Requested that we did without any class or without any -- -- without any are.
Kerry also warned that people may die as a consequence of what -- did even so Snowdon has his defenders.
Heroes can be flawed the only hero was -- -- was that killed on Good Friday his act of exposing.
The American government spying on almost every American was an act of heroism.
What he has done since then might not be what I would have done but that particular act was an act of American heroism.
Joining us now from Chicago -- attorney mark state who's worked for the number of national security whistle blowers.
OK mark out with with Sergei Lavrov typical Russian style fired back today.
And he said this isn't a lot of conspiracy theories coming out of the United States it.
Hey you think were purposely tried -- -- manipulate the situation nothing of the sort that you heard John Cary come come back and say.
-- or not threatening anyone -- not accusing general we're just making a request.
The stand now and I don't think we particular we look particularly strong in this situation but then -- what leverage do we have.
Well we don't have a lot of leverage against Russia obviously in this type of case.
You know whether or not snowed in would be surrendered I mean let's be realistic here -- the shoes on the other foot.
And we had a Russian of this type of caliber we would not be sending them.
To Russia this is now a political game and snowed in whether he wanted to or -- and hopefully he realizes it now he's a political international -- And it's interesting 'cause who what when you had your little bit about the judge saying how he what he did was heroic no one's even talking about the NSA whistle blow with the NSA surveillance program many longer -- what he's talking about where -- though is.
And looking at all these international incidents.
And if anyone doesn't think -- you talked about in your first segment that this is not harming our relationships around the world.
By what he did.
There is the harm to national security we can put aside.
The revelations of disclosure of classified information he's impacting foreign relations of the United States.
This is not helping our relationship with Russia China Hong Kong or wherever he might go from here on.
Now we have big issues outstanding obviously Syria all of our are hacking accusations going back and forth with China and now four lap tops in his possession.
Market and and undoubtedly the Russians take what you can stand our airport shortly -- look at these laptops and all of what's on them on Iowa it was big and it -- No you can't take my look at the top -- I don't know -- support.
So all of the material we have to have sound has already been reviewed or copy absolutely -- by China and Russia.
What does that mean for US national security interest depending on what he had to get access to a lot.
I don't know right we don't know how much he had but he certainly had we don't know yet access.
You know quote we don't we don't know yet the guardian -- and and Glenn Greenwald can tell us perhaps maybe that would be helpful if he told the United States what it's known and actually took in in -- we know.
By what he downloaded.
But we haven't heard that from the United States yet.
But we have to assume and I'm sure our intelligence community already has.
That both governments China and Russia have either taken.
Intentionally with -- -- permission or without it's permission.
Or maybe without his knowledge every document that was on those laptops and people also have to understand because they'll say.
Well we already knew everybody knew.
That this program was going on so what difference does it make to have it revealed well there's a huge difference -- you I'm -- know this.
From your own background is a huge difference when a our program a Covert program even though it might be discussed publicly.
Becomes actually public to a sense where government has to acknowledge it because then the other government has to respond.
To that situation -- that I kind of correlation but it.
Apparently he had -- he claims I should say he claims.
He had access to the names of of major operatives working on behalf of the US government are around the world.
He said that's one of the reasons he went to applied to Booz Allen.
The the the outfit that was kind of responsible for getting so many these national security contractors hired.
And US government.
So in fact we have individuals whose lives are endangered now because of the information that's on these laptops and is again the most shocking thing to me about all -- Is that a Booz Allen employee had this type of access within a lot three months of joining Rihanna -- -- That's -- a startling six.
Month or ever was.
And this'll be something that has already started to be -- that I mean the question is not about how many people have security clearances or whether or not.
-- people should have access but what why in his position did he have access to information that fell outside of his work responsibilities.
General Alexander the director of the NSA has testified.
That this was part of again and -- a library that an administrator of slogans.
Position had access to and my court shall be well why.
Why did he have access to -- why did snowed -- need to know or have access to safe buys a court order.
Now I there's no reason and we better get answers on that question and not right away -- counselor thank you very much and.
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