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-- here to explain the decision is the man himself senator Rand Paul senator welcome back.
Hit a good -- It's pretty simple to me.
That this this was something.
That from the very beginning conservatives.
Who had been against any any planned to for legalization or green cards like yourself.
Would have changed your mind if we secure the border first what are they listen.
We got -- from the very beginning I was open to immigration reform as long it was dependent on securing the border first.
And I was very explicit about this but apparently nobody listened or cared.
I also thought it was important that -- we determine whether the border secure that congress should determine this not the president.
I don't have a lot of trust left over for the current president but I really don't trust any president to make this decision I think congress.
The representatives of the people should determine when the borders secure -- I was a little surprised page 35 -- 24 that the policy panel has veto power.
To the power to veto the border fence somewhere to put it in the immigration bill allows a little surprising to me tell.
Well the irony is they threw in a billion and a half dollars for some -- used jobs program.
That's as much as ever gonna spend on the fence but then they also -- -- Vito for Janet Napolitano to be out of -- defense if she thinks the borders secure.
That's the problem with -- leaving it up to the president.
The president thinks the border security now so I don't have a great deal of hope that she won't just -- defense -- the new deal would your colleagues every day.
Don't they believe that America.
Has the right to sovereign borders what do they tell you.
I think there are many are running scared and -- just passed some thing doesn't matter exactly what is in the bill.
They want to be in favor of immigration reform.
And I'm in favor of it but the details are important I've read try to read the bills it's 12100 pages we got it on Monday.
We work our way through it as quickly as we can but the thing is is that.
I think for some it's the symbolism of this and they're not too concerned whether we allow -- over the -- so whether we tell a billion and a half in there for a jobs program.
Yeah I always expected that the house would only do border security but.
My sources in Washington tonight are telling me.
That the leading bill that is being discussed in the House of Representatives.
Is a bill that would give a five year temporary legal status to it illegal immigrants.
And then if the border is not secure it would be revoked are you here in the same thing.
I'm hearing a little bit of that and I'm hoping that's not the plan because I think once you give status it's never coming back so that's why my amendment.
Secure the border -- you vote on it when it's secure than you begin gradually.
Normalizing the people we still get more votes each year you get another vote.
And I spoke to one of the leading conservatives.
On the Judiciary Committee in the house today.
And he said he was interest in my idea I'm continuing to talk to consumers in the house.
With the hope that they will vote for it.
Congress to decide when the border secure.
And that they won't start the process into what had at least a year to do securing the border.
Well my fear is that they will pass border security first I always assume they wouldn't now I have some doubt.
And -- -- go to conference and then at a conference this senate bill would would tend to win.
And that what is just what -- speak of interview at that point you have any idea have you spoken to him.
Well you know I was pleased to hear his comments or in the week when the speaker said that he is not gonna pass something unless -- majority of Republicans are for it.
The the chance that we get the senate bill the only chance is senate bill could pass in the house.
Is it it passes with thirty or forty Republicans and -- 180 Democrats.
-- speaker Boehner is gonna hold to his word and say it has to have a majority Republicans I think we'll get a better bill.
What I'm hoping they'll say is let's do this step wise we can call it comprehensive.
But let's have triggers in that it really make it a step wise -- we're border security is actually first.
And then legalization comes after we vote -- the border is secure.
What did you think of the president's speech today when he said he would sidestep congress to implement his global warming initiative.
Through executive via.
You know I think he has a pattern of this and this is one reason why you a lot of us in the country are worried about it which way in which direction he's -- the country.
I don't like the idea of unelected bureaucrats riding lawn making law if he tries to do this we will have a vote in the senate.
We have something called the congressional review act.
And if he writes a regulation or trust it have a new carbon tax without us voting -- -- we will force a vote on it.
But the question is can we -- -- with a room the Democrats stay lockstep.
Behind him and that's what they've done in the past one of the saddest things as we're watching this whole Edwards Snowden.
Fiasco -- -- and Vladimir Putin basically.
Thumbing his nose and is thumb in the -- -- America.
Is the Wall Street Journal writes today that America's -- Do you think they view us as -- our enemies.
You know I think it's hard to tell I think that there's a great deal of sympathy around the world for privacy on the Internet.
In fact I hear from some of the Internet service providers and the search engine people.
That -- trouble really isn't with anger in America right now they're trouble is with anger in Europe.
People really upset about their privacy being invaded and so I think there's a lot of sympathy out there maybe not necessarily.
For the idea who the league careers but for the concept of privacy I think there's a lot of sympathy around the world for that.
Let me ask you those -- pew poll that came out when you look at the scandals and all the issues that we're discussing.
And gun control.
Immigration and global warming at the lowest level in terms old people's priorities.
But the most frequent words now used according to -- to describe President Obama are incompetent and lie here.
What does that what what's your take on that.
And what should the president take out of that.
Right you know I think the constellation of scandals are adding up and they're multiplying.
And I really think that there are sapping his moral authority to lead the nation you don't need just the legal authority to be president.
You have to have some moral authority have to have people supporting what you're doing and I think -- people are concerned -- -- Even his constituency he won like 6070%.
Of the -- -- young people of this country wanted privacy and they thought he'd be their champion and -- it turns out that he's looking at or having the NSA.
Look at a billion phone records every day so I think.
People don't like that kind of hypocrisy.
And so I think it is damaging him and I don't think he's going to be able to get much done in the last four years and less he really claims house.
And says I'm not gonna tolerate -- people lying to congress I'm not gonna tolerate RS agents targeting conservatives.
So -- he does that -- I think he's really lost ground.
All right senator Rand Paul -- to see -- thanks for being with us.
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