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Joining us now I have marked perhaps she's kind of defense lawyer here in the studio -- this year against avenue and have a -- as a -- -- military as well I think have you here in the -- as well.
You know it was very interesting listening to some this early testimony in the morning as they were beginning to interview the first.
Witness of the day a woman who.
Claims that she claims that she says she was obviously.
Privy to hearing noise add a scuffle.
And it was rainy it was dark she was very.
You know clear about what she thought she saw and heard.
And as she brought up the fact that she could actually tell whose waste it was.
She claimed that he could tell who was Georgia man who -- trip on -- She could even tell who that is she said that she felt it was a government on top of Barton.
And she called 911 and they played very emotional.
911 tape off for -- what you hear.
It was interesting because it.
The prosecution was trying to build her up as a very credible witness who could you know give the facts as she understood as he saw them.
The evidence that she -- and then under cross examination.
They were able to chip away at her credibility with that that was very interest in the way that it was done what he's not to have it where there was portrait I've.
Think -- viewpoints are correct.
You know she even don't direct she gave the defense some points -- the fact that it was pouring rain I think that's going to be important in the future we've heard some testimony yesterday.
But it was drizzling.
And later when we're talking about DNA evidence of blood that pouring rain at testimony may become very important.
But on cross examination I mean she really didn't give up quite a bit and I think it was important to note that she testified on direct that the window was open.
And in the 911 call she said I'll open the window and -- there's definitely some discrepancy there you know there are.
There studies -- that that show that your witness this as it was eyewitness to right are far far less reliable yes and her reliability I think was diminished the -- -- went to cross examining.
-- -- you were saying first of all.
You were you ever heard it came about mark what's more he never heard -- -- the war and yet you make the assumption.
Using network assumption that you know whose true.
Yet she had to admit that she never has spoken either one of them board heard -- voice for so -- really you know.
Put us you know real -- you know doubt in the in the minds of terrorism in terms of planted the seeds of doubt at least about what she had set up to this.
As you said they were able to chip away at the basis of her knowledge and the foundation.
For her assumptions.
But what you can't get around really is the fact that she testified pretty unequivocally.
That the voice was high.
And that she thought it was out of a boy and others to explanations that you don't have to know.
What is voice sounded like that to know it sounds like -- high voice about a boy so there's two at least two potential explanations for that.
It could be a man's voice.
Heightened didn't pitch by the stress and an exciting event.
Or that it's the voice of the younger person.
And that has the latter.
Assumption -- visceral and intuitive appeal to it no matter how heavily -- at the basis of knowledge.
But on the other hand on the other hand he did we have you know talked about puberty talked about the fact that.
The boy's voice changes.
We all -- that basic common common knowledge for most people different health class -- whatever she seemed very defensive and very.
Upset that she was being challenged in this way he's very dismissive of those questions and she was being -- you know.
I have you do you have acknowledged at a boy's waist has changed I hit puberty.
And that's big.
Exactly the thing that the jury is focused on at the end of the case when they get the charge they're gonna hear that it's up to them to determine the witness's credibility based on their own -- their body language and all of those types of things.
So hurt defensiveness I think.
Could hurt her entire testimony the other thing that's interesting is this morning the judge rules and we -- get to this later that that -- -- 11 calls are going to get it.
When you listen to those calls.
Government actually has a pretty high voice and so that it could actually be helpful in the future to -- you know for -- to assume that -- -- boy's voice given the puberty thing.
Given that the -- pictures aren't -- I think that the jury may have some questions.
I wanna give us now -- -- calls just but first I want to place themselves from the 911 call that mr.
dyke two -- -- me.
The night of the incident and she was very emotional and hysterical practically amazingly calm her down but.
I want -- folks to hear what she described as.
In terms -- what she saw that night and how it compares with a testament today so let's listen to the 11 call please.
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And the people out there I thought it it is an important things happen and I think the critical and important right now.
We'll be carpenter there he had somebody you know eight point oh.
-- they're gonna handle the situation room here.
Who who built it up with unity values -- you -- him -- your own kind being okay.
But I don't think you can look at how global.
We don't know they've been killed apparently going to be but it probably -- the yeah yeah or that -- before.
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