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And I -- -- par in two.
-- -- And that was David Bull -- an attorney on behalf of those seeking to uphold the reversal.
Proposition eight in California.
-- measure which -- that same sex marriage in that state.
And this is a power play and I -- -- our -- Anti gay marriage day Internet it's on.
In a nice twist for David Boies who's most famous previous encounter with the Supreme Court.
Was watching Al Gore gets banked by George W.
And were not become president so now David Boies and others interestingly one of the lawyers for George W.
Bush -- also.
Have one a partial victory today.
Let's find out about it let's learn more about this is we try to sort it out and there is no one.
Absolutely no and I can they -- better of you sorted out that aren't Shannon Bream Shannon happy -- See you -- I don't back here in the air condition.
This if I'm not saying it's cooler here than it is their but the new is -- -- is where you so what's and then use the news is very hot today it's interesting.
-- makes you very important decisions today.
And while those who favor same sex marriage a lot to celebrate this is not any -- being gay marriages now legal in all fifty states kind of DL it's important to know what these decisions do and don't do.
First got the -- this -- -- -- the federal law the defense of marriage act passed by heavily bipartisan majorities in.
House the senate signed into law by then President Bill Clinton who has since changed his mind.
-- but it doesn't what its -- it's it doesn't matter.
Like your state say what -- states recognize the federal government for purposes of more than 11100 benefits things like tax on those kinds of things.
Only recognizes a marriage between a man and a woman today.
With a 54 opinion the court struck down that portion of -- -- defines marriage and that way and basically said.
You can't help states where they said this thing that -- legitimate relationship we want to recognize it and accrued benefits to it.
I and the federal government says now it's something seconds here and we don't want anything to do with that so basically.
If -- state in which you live allow same sex marriage in the -- now also for purposes of federal benefits.
Have to recognize that marriage it.
Second case this state level proposition eight.
Of voters they are seven million of them have to measure which amended the California constitution to say marriage is only between one man and one woman.
It went for the court system the state officials there in California the attorney general to governor normally those who would be defending and -- named on the lawsuit.
Refuse to defend the law in court sell some supporters of prop eight took up the legal defense about it all the way here to the Supreme Court.
The justices did not rule on the merits of proposition eight what they simply said was the people who brought the case here.
Didn't have standing they -- never before have we recognize the private party coming here to defend something that they constitutionally past state measure.
So they said you can't -- essentially -- all the way to act down to the trial court.
Which threw out prop -- so essentially now prop eight is no good in California.
But in the whole -- that this Supreme Court has really never ruled on the merits of gay marriage -- -- technically.
And it doesn't mean that.
The entire country is now covered by a rights or an obligation -- -- couples get married and.
It does it -- great so we're we're gonna take this as.
Fairly bold step on Belmont.
And letting themselves up on a technicality.
When it comes to state.
Referenda on -- him.
That is how it boils down and what it means essentially within a few weeks probably.
I gay marriage will be legal in California doesn't mean it will be in Nebraska or Texas.
I simply what it means is that states right now for their own for -- you know for the most part.
Have the rights to decide this amongst themselves but whatever they decide the federal government for purposes of benefits after recognized.
States' rights -- green we are grateful for you every day and as a colleague but Notre -- worth more than this -- existence we thank you.
So what about that.
Now -- -- that yes yes yes he is is important is managing editor who is important as this but let's talked about in his role as an act.
Yes okay so I wrote a column today and fast back and apologize for typos I apologize for Iraq because I was -- swiftly.
But basically -- -- this Hollywood beat Washington.
On the question of same sex unions quoted Philadelphia 1993.
Eight one all these -- -- and Denzel and tanks and basically this well.
Proponents of traditional marriage opponents sense that -- -- great success in getting craven politicians.
To do what they wanted them to do you went public opinion polls were running high.
In favor of were opposed to gay marriage.
Once that things started to -- -- you think Bill Clinton wanted to sign dome into law no.
But he was trying to get through and he had some other problems and he's dead and that you got 70% in favor this thing.
We'll take it yet and so that these same politicians who were once the friends of enforcing this.
And then went up and it went when Joseph Biden and a push the issue on because the little old that was sent yeah -- Forced but many also say -- cannot -- this from policy standpoint but.
The evolution of Obama that any mention Clinton signing -- downtown at what Oakland is -- now against this.
Happy that this decision.
It just amazing need to practice music lessons and you -- George W.
Bush won a second term data because of the issue gay marriage.
The politics have changed.
Significantly -- it instantly -- with -- are.
And you know it's been -- to watch there there are there some careless them.
On the question of abortion and on game -- social conservatives have done much better much better on abortion.
And yeah they've had success on the state level and all of that.
But they've also had a lot of success in changing the discussion about it -- away from what it was back in the Roe vs.
Wade days it was a discussion about it.
Whether they stay safe legal and rare in the small number of what if what if it was your daughter and all of that.
That discussion -- changed and now we talk more about viability of fetuses and sciences help them and all of that yes and abortion opponents have won in the culture to.
Considerable degree maybe not a huge degree.
Movies like Juno and others have have cast this in a more favorable light.
However on the game fishermen one episode of will and grace is worth like thirty petitions from the Christian college.
Yet and -- it's it's best -- C.
A so called conservative court come up with this decision and of course Obama care hot and you -- speaker John -- is a loss for him because he.
He had his attorneys you know defending the law enforcement in -- -- get but he was tentative calm at the same time yet at congressional Republicans have been.
By and large very quiet on this decision so far as well as at the voting rights decision.
Whenever voting rights act decision may need to stay quiet because.
What the court decided yes we can get much into this -- the court said yesterday was if congress wishes to maintain the restrictions on states under the voting rights act.
They need to come up with a new formula guess what nobody in congress wants to -- Can come up and nobody wants to be like how racist is Mississippi I don't know that's a good question rats did it -- that so it so -- all all Republicans who favor.
Greater restrictions -- I guess they would say.
Against voter fraud.
All they had to do essentially is nothing like the state level let states like Texas and others -- two sentence statement the federal after -- And though Democrats are looking to be active on this teaching me pat -- is moving forward legislation but you've been getting a bipartisan agreement on.
New formulas for voting and if -- even.
Oh now wait a minute now wait a minute that farm -- That -- it was not as controversial as it was there was a lot.
That was not the question that was cast in a lot by the question what is that -- -- -- small -- a month or this farm bill vote was cast is like what they always do that -- -- gracious -- and they didn't do well this -- no different than previous arm became vehicle problems other stuff.
This congress is very different than forty previous conferences so we expect different results -- it's all insane at here's what.
People people are saying about the column that I tweeted -- social liberals what other kind is there.
Kind of you you kind of make a point.
And the the news about when this goes to the states because the court has allowed states to continued at referendum that's -- it's gonna help.
Democrats in states where there is a substantial population favorite this is make sure that states that passed -- previously they're gonna reverse them this is gonna bring out on a energized core on both sides right wind that we as this continues to roll through the State's right yet.
I think it's gonna have -- democratic activist activist certainly for.
The gay marriage legalization are going to be going on offense there's no doubt about it and this is also going to be -- and immigration reform.
Bill yes it certainly he an amendment on that.
And and they were kind of waiting to speak are from their standpoint to hopefully do this and they didn't have to kind of grapple with it so I think they've taken me may be able to not.
Have to deal with this.
And take yet to be -- from the gay activist who works with Democrats because they didn't call for a committee vote I'm.
You can take -- -- Key issues but -- -- he is managing editor el sag member in good standing we thank you Bob for explaining the culture wars do us here.
And the short answer in all of this is.
If you ever -- counting on the courage of politicians.
To do what you think is the right thing in the face of public opposition.
Don't hold your breath that's the truth OK we're gonna take a quick break so short that you can't hold your breath for that one.
And when we come back.
We'll talk a little bit more about this but we will also.
Sift through the latest Fox News polls talking about president Obama's.
Job approval yes but more importantly.
Its -- and it's under water for the first time in history.
That's interest -- the current.
And that's is that it looked like is that urged him aboard Air Force One.
Bound for Senegal as part of it were -- here Africa first.
And this is power play and welcome back.
So it's not a bad time for the president should be a taking a break from the American electorate.
As new polls show that people are getting they're not just disapproving of his.
Job performance they don't they're starting to dislike him personally and as I said before for the very first time the presidents.
Has dipped into negative territory it's not far into negative care reform points.
But it's a very first especially for a guy who -- -- -- -- -- and it in this category even win his policies and job performance we're taking it.
What has punctured.
-- the balloon that people -- now.
When Nixon he is of course a radio show host here in Washington WP FW former career in law enforcement officer.
Whose experiences with the law are different this he don't rest -- bloggers here plays Garland but Charlie hurt is a columnist for The Washington Times.
Who wrote a -- -- order a -- scorcher of a good piece this week.
I commend it to everybody.
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Even though you pretend he doesn't think -- Okay quarter.
Yes and anybody Ed Garland Nixon they did you connect on Twitter of course he's -- He's not a statement -- yet.
I am exactly you're -- racists pretending exactly -- -- a meticulous yes OK so let's get to the polls Fox News -- President Obama's job performance.
Approve 43% disapprove 51%.
Not good but it's.
Not a -- the president has had these generally is bandwidth is that 47 to 42%.
Somewhere in that area and to -- what he got up to about fifty ready -- the election.
-- generally that's where he lives he's -- -- couple months you'd expect that but this one.
Is more interesting the second -- opinion of Barack Obama personally what your personal what's your opinion of him that guy.
Garland the president for a long time could count on essentially goodwill and confidence the trust of the electorate that even when they had some concerns about his policies.
That they said you know what though but he's a good job.
How alarming should this negative assessment before the ministry.
I don't think it's extremely and the second term slump is nothing unusual for any president.
I do think there are some policy issues -- need to be concerned about and that would be being able to enact his signature legislation CA Wednesday he needs to get people to -- out there.
Yes it is to get.
Obama cares if we call it all right let's -- at this yet but he needs to get -- -- -- he needs in acting need to go with sign up -- -- game that you have to hit the kind of like you would trust you so that should that would be the only concern politically and and policy wise that I would.
Be thinking about over the life.
But you know this has been sort of of the problem that President Obama has had from the beginning -- you know good for it.
He's very much enjoyed sort of being cool being liked.
Let's bring up the ball as Charlie's talking the third hole here is -- historical look at president Obama's job approval rating.
And you see February 0968%.
And then dropping steadily through the years but now the way that stuff.
And like in 2008 when he was running against John McCain.
I don't agree with anything president.
-- policy but.
You couldn't -- like exports I don't -- She just not that he's any.
But at least he knew he was very -- he he came -- as being very trustworthy.
You wanted to like and he was especially compared to John McCain he was a very appealing guy.
I conservatives were probably isn't an editor and if it.
At all I've got a bad -- in the floor -- -- -- -- -- -- but but.
To me the most significant.
Take away from that -- It's -- Quote quinnipiac poll out earlier today.
That showed it was went right to the point of trust do you trust him.
And and and that too is what do it didn't see that people don't trust the guy is.
To me that would should be very alarming because it goes you know goes to the heart of what what it -- -- part of his match.
They're part of his magic about this for the heart of his magic the fourth installment of this poll.
Is president Obama's handling of government surveillance program -- Arlen.
Partner 32% -- 61%.
Disapprove as you pointed out earlier and let me expound on that briefly.
The president has not only the implementation of his signature -- ten health insurance law.
But also beyond that.
He's got a huge fiscal fight coming with Republicans.
He's going to have to take what may be a difficult stance on immigration issues of house Republicans can put an enforcement first.
Measure forward the president's gonna have to ask for some grace and forbearance from the electorate in the months to come.
The things -- and by the way the numbers on the IRS were even more heinous it was really bad.
But on this issue of the NSA program and liberals being unhappy about this.
He doesn't enjoy the confidence that he once had its.
Well I think there's a couple things when it comes to surveillance I don't -- any president ever gonna get anything about that everybody nobody wants to terrorist attack but.
Everybody needs -- things that -- -- happen in order not -- terrorists attack including the right I'll be honest.
About that I think when it comes to actually enacting policies and talk about immigration reform etc.
I think you know those whom that I think his ability that people that likens it despite the net and changed a lot.
Because for those who like the president.
-- you would like.
And for those who dislike the president -- feels good to just like -- And I think the people in congress when they look at look always going to be either the people in my district hate him I can't support anything or somewhere.
-- for the other job.
But you know and -- having yeah.
These -- and they're trying to make back bag slow engines.
Right over here that I enjoyed.
It a joke and and you and I don't -- -- -- yeah.
And I can't -- -- -- getting ahead of the battle of product.
Program there's nothing to -- stuff over there.
So there is so good lately you looked askance at that I did askance indeed it -- indeed.
Okay we're going to have to take a quick break here is what -- many three -- as we call ourselves.
The world's only remaining superpower after the snow -- there -- -- -- by a real -- chops it -- Chase forty US is going to -- meltdown that the USSR went through in the -- I'm ashamed of what is the US has turned into under Obama.
-- -- -- They're -- what about a hundred million dollars in taxpayer dollars in the Obama's vacation gets you about vacation it doesn't get it it's -- Grouchy and how -- Much like the rest of the electorate all right guys we're going to come back we're gonna talk congressman Paul Brown from Georgia.
He's gonna fill us in on the latest on the IRS and will get a sneak peek at the senate race that's.
And in real barber down there.
-- -- -- Got a prediction -- the prediction is this.
History is measured.
By tipping points and I think that this is going to be a tipping point in how the relationship is between the governed and those who govern us and this is a huge event.
And it its consequences I think are going to be fine why.
And that's bull.
Production was from -- -- he's a congressman from Illinois he was talking there about what's happened at the IRS which.
In short and -- once there was in -- Major -- scandal exposed about the targeting of conservative groups by the agency we've seen a series an avalanche of other problems at the agency.
The misuse of credit cards.
Lavish bonuses lavish conventions.
Fifty million dollars worth and on and on and on.
And this power play welcome back now.
Congressman Paul Brown he is a Republican from Georgia and normally his -- -- have to do things like Homeland Security but.
In your conference congressman is hot on this IRS story welcome to the show.
Thanks Chris I appreciated this all ended indicative of a government this out of control that is in my Bailiwick that's been -- -- ever since I've been.
In Washington for six years now we've just got to get government under control stopping this out of control spending and RS scandal is just one indication of how out of control government he has.
And we were talking in the previous segment about.
-- public assessments of voter assessments of president Obama's job performance confidence and trust in the government in this IRS.
Think coming as it did right before the revelations about the NSA -- Have created this cascade effect where people are there is a crisis of confidence.
Absolutely in fact we should have a tremendous.
Discomfort at the least about how big our government's -- to be and it goes more than that even back to fast imperious.
How -- our government has just actually.
Gone overboard to do things that he should not be doing government has gotten too big it's gotten too intrusive is spending too much is -- too much.
-- -- -- -- -- -- People's business too much and we just have to shrink the size of government.
That's my message ever since -- -- up here and I've been.
Proposing targeted cuts to try to cut -- thousands scope of government in this.
-- -- scandal -- Joseph talked about a sitting here with great interest listed in the all this just.
Farther indication when he 600 dollars for dot pills and student and romance -- -- mean this is.
This is crazy it just.
Shows that government has.
Develop this attitude that is no longer a government.
Of the people but a government over the people and it has to stop an American people deserve more and must demand more.
What's your take -- actually demand less -- -- that are.
But it's that -- -- and less.
The from your from your post on the homeland security committee.
What's your take about -- and it's a situation do you think that the civil liberties Americans are being adequately protected.
I know a dollar and in -- -- what we hear from what's going on within SA what they've actually already admitted.
The civil liberties have been trounced upon the constitutionally protected liberties -- -- -- trounced on about our government.
I think American citizens must have been processed no matter what and Charlie -- we must.
Do what we -- have to make.
-- -- national -- on the constitution national security should be the major function of the federal government as you know Chris I'm an original intent constitution -- And I believe that as strong national finance and national security should be what we -- -- -- focus upon here in Washington and not a lot of things that we're doing.
But trials and upon people's privacy and plan their liberty without due process is totally unacceptable.
To me and it should -- all American citizens.
-- assay sample we gather all this data but nobody's looking well the thing is -- -- today -- those people can look at it.
They're doing it.
Counter -- what our Fourth Amendment.
Protection puts in place and it needs to stop it must stop and those that have been doing so should be held responsible.
Before we let you go congressman this is a barn burner is shaping up to be a barber -- senate primary.
For you all down in Georgia.
So much of your delegation.
Run and for that that seem to be open -- How are you going -- how do you delineate yourself from the rest of the field but do it in a way that doesn't cause.
-- -- in your.
Well Chris Georgia's going to elect the most conservative Republican to replace retiree.
-- senators Saxby Chambliss and I'm that person.
I'm the only original intent constitutional is this going to be in this race.
I'm the only candidate in this race who's been in the trenches fighting to stop this out of control government out of control spending.
I've introduce more targeted spending cuts in the number of spending cuts than any other member of the Georgia delegation.
I've introduced the strongest balanced budget amendment of the constitution.
This in the US house probably congress I don't know what they have over the -- I've been proposed in -- and education.
Dollars back to the -- so that instead of spending it's almost seventy billion dollars a year.
On -- US Department of Education.
Where the fat cat bureaucrats that have never -- a child to read being paid on average a 102000.
Dollars a year.
But just twice what teachers in Georgia on the average night.
Let's keep those dollars in Georgia less pay your teachers more let's get the government shackles off our teachers so every state can have a world class education system.
I'm closing -- shut down the EPA and and we've got to be good stewards of our environment we don't.
We should be spending billions of dollars on a bureaucracy that's destroying jobs and destroy our economy so I've been in the trenches.
Nobody else has to.
Try to reduce the -- of government and so I'll stand alone in that way and once the georgians.
Get my message I will be elected US senate.
So I guess the answer the question is is with alacrity and enthusiast.
Chris yeah Islam -- -- Chris -- a US marine and I'm fighting for liberty that's what I've been doing -- swore to uphold the constitution against enemies both foreign.
And domestic we've got domestic enemies of the constitution and we see them in the RS and and other things that are going on with this administration now -- -- -- -- that.
There's -- back.
-- -- -- that he may be a congressman but he knows what he's talking about.
Congressman we think we thank you for making some -- -- -- today at a great day thanks Chris Douglas.
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