Also in this playlist...
This transcript is automatically generated
Hi everyone I'm Laura Ingraham in for Bill O'Reilly thanks for watching us tonight let's get right to the top story in a time for talking points -- -- two major rulings from the Supreme Court.
On the issue of same sex marriage both welcome news for advocates of gay rights.
First -- justices ruled five to four at a crucial part of the defense of marriage act is unconstitutional.
Don't mind as a loss commonly known prohibited the federal government from granting benefits to same sex couples who are legally married by a state.
So today's decision means that gay couples will now be treated the same under federal law as other married couples.
In a separate split decision the court allowed gay marriage to stand in California.
But did not address the merits of the case or decide the right to marry is a constitutional right.
That involved it prop eight of course so where does that leave almost half the country who have a different point of view.
So what will the political fallout in the social fallout of these landmark rulings being.
Well joining us now from New York democratic strategist Bernard Whitman and from Dallas -- Robert -- Chris the pastor of the first Baptist Church.
In Dallas all right well a -- let's start out with you -- mister -- This is been and celebrated coast to coast by advocates of gay rights.
They're not so worried that the court didn't address.
The issue of gay marriage as a constitutional right.
In that prop eight case what's your take on that.
I want to think it's an extraordinary day for all Americans because the Supreme Court in both the decisions affirmed what a growing majority of Americans have come to realize -- is.
They loving couple be they gay or straight.
Should have the ability to love whoever they want it to enter into one of the most conservative and traditional structures we have been in our society they and that's the institution of marriage.
In a committed couple in love.
And the fact that they now -- entry into the institution of marriage strengthens our fairly strengthens our communities and strengthens America as a whole.
Buzz that you that you make the point that -- -- growing number of Americans support this and and and I think you're right and clearly growing number of Americans do.
And -- the lead one to think that maybe elect the democratic process go for it.
So you don't have this issue thrown into this contentious.
Air arena with the court steps and and as Justice Scalia pointed out in his dissent -- -- short circuits the will of the American people mr.
-- I don't think so all in fact I mean I give huge credit to the framers of the constitution because they force are these types of issues and the constitution is meant to guarantee the rights of everybody in the rights of the minority.
Be they racial minority ethnic -- or your sexual minority should not be put up for a vote in the Supreme Court was very clear.
And saying that this of the government has -- no business to discriminate.
And and therefore cannot.
Over the -- a lot into a civil right but it's a protected class -- -- the pastor here it's a protected class.
That means that there -- invariably will be a constitutional right.
Four gay Americans to marry and that this will be the law of the land maybe not today.
But down the road essentially that's what I just -- -- evidence from here just patted efforts.
Look -- in 1885 the Supreme Court said in Murphy vs Ramsey that marriage is a sacred union between a man and woman.
From which all good things in society come.
Now 130 years later this is changing you have to ask yourself what is change the constitution hasn't changed.
What has changed since the culture the Supreme Court caved to political correctness today.
And I would suggest to you that our other -- really doesn't believe what he said.
In constitutional rights for everybody I mean after all if we have the right to love and marry whomever we want to why not expand the definition of marriage further to include polygamous to include siblings to include fifteen year olds.
There are sound sociological.
Reasons not just religious this sociological reasons that government has historically and should continue to get.
Preference to heterosexual marriage.
Now a lot has changed since 1885.
Obviously with the way of course that's -- has dealt with has dealt with precedent.
Pastor again but it costs a lot of -- -- a lot of competition hasn't.
That -- prosecution has -- that obviously we have the holes.
A history of recent -- credential decisions where the court has Walt.
And that's not kind of way I look at court you know over the court has evolved and you have -- elections have consequences and and mr.
-- a lot -- OK -- What it'll get alarm let me also point out that there -- sociological reasons you know are pretty bill kind of got to criticized for talking about conservatives not offering.
A good case except for Bible thumping whether it's a good case beyond the Bible further traditional heterosexual marriages in my book I quote Princeton sociologists.
Who said if we were trying to design a situation.
In which the best race a child and -- teenage were -- out it would be one in which the child this candidate could have both of its biological parents that's not always possible Laura but it ought to be the preferred status and government ought to promote it.
Instead they discouraging it got -- mr.
-- -- -- -- -- an advisor to Bill Clinton in 1996 of course you weren't involved in the decision it is now.
Advocates for the defense of marriage act -- side and the law but nevertheless.
And what how long it now right that Bill Clinton's didn't sign domain along include and we have thirty plus states where the American people.
Have either through rough around them -- or through -- out there are other means decided for those states.
This is the way they view marriage are we to believe now that all of those states are.
Demeaning and derogatory.
And dismissive and their views of gay Americans -- that was -- of the subtext of what the court.
Said today in -- one of these what he did -- -- -- -- it was pretty -- there.
We have almost never seen in our -- even before such a swift change in public opinion towards a full acceptance of gays and I have never had an -- -- do -- the reason for that is.
That people are being harmed -- -- being harmed.
Millions and millions of couples are legally married to across the United States and are not afford the protection by government and I'm sorry not to allow testing -- To continue to.
On it to suggest that children raised by gay couples.
Our -- bit less will adjust in fact there -- a study just out in Australia 500 kids that showed children of gay couples are actually healthier get along better.
With their family members that -- straight no that's not true at all and that's not true and I had not crawl out.
According -- -- that is not true or not to use religion to promote bigotry against gays legends.
How to stop the majority of Americans now do not absolutely.
I think you're you're -- -- and it's an exemplar -- -- -- won't work out what -- yeah you can respond but what were concerned about where I'm concerned about is in this conversation.
That we're respectful that both sides can be heard without people who believe in traditional marriage being branded as.
Or are anti gay I don't like that -- -- -- like when people have now ended once they know the other and it better be respectful.
Conversation at least I hope so you can wrap it up about pastor.
Laura I just wanna remind our guests that neither -- or any of us would be here had it not been for a heterosexual union between a man and a woman nature teaches us and I believe it's god.
That the best relationship in which to raise a child is without a father and a mother to say that came in can just as easily and effectively.
Raise a child is to demean the role of women and listen even though culture changes and the court may change God's word never changes he designed marriage he knows how -- -- -- largest.
I -- -- -- I don't and you do not have a right I got my -- is not agree with you -- Smith today continued we appreciate it and next.
Filter by section