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Hi I'm KT McFarland and this is -- country we're gonna take a brief break from his Harmon dropped to talk about foreign policy for a few minutes joining me now is -- Washington free Beaconsfield Kurds.
To talk about the latest with gluten.
Who's got that Super Bowl ring that he seems to -- pond but beyond I was -- had a couple of articles that you have just written.
You said that Russia is in fact she -- On -- 1987.
Medium range name the treaty that President Reagan signed with the Russians that they -- building a new missile.
That's in violation of this treaty what -- Yeah this is a very important story the disclosure that Russia is via relating INF treaty.
It is the result of a lot of back room maneuvering that's been going on between congress and the administration since the -- latter part of last year.
It made it involves Russian testing of a new.
Missile that the Russians are claiming -- -- -- Your immediate range missile that is banned under this treaty a lot of -- significant is significant because.
President Obama just last week announced that he wanted to engage the right.
-- of arms control talks.
And you're -- the Russian violating -- old agreement.
Haven't fully complying with the new agreement so that's kind of what the issue out of Ottawa -- a lot of that your.
Coverage -- -- -- Edwards but this is a very significant story.
-- a lot of the Russians come back here and say lock.
This has nothing to do with the United States -- -- Canada China on our border China's building up its nuclear weapons stockpile.
What we're really doing is answering that threat and building up an intermediate range missile capable of hitting the United States that -- Dealing with the Chinese to turn.
Yes that's seems to be the case is that the case that person should clearly you know look we report it was all but this and a -- of course -- Arms control better policies of the Obama administration they're very much opposed -- that but not very likely what's happening.
China is a factor here they -- all the way most of -- nuclear reduction.
The Russians are saying that -- simply -- our personal further what is.
Building up their arsenal.
Well that you did or or.
Was it new 13.
Okay -- from the Washington free -- and how do you explain President Obama.
Going to Berlin and talking about cutting unilaterally cut in the US nuclear arsenal by -- third.
-- any sense.
Part of the president's.
Local -- approach nuclear weapon.
It's a very naive.
A lot of the vessel or -- -- -- was just saying that it.
It's going to undermine our deterrent and we need to deter and even the president has recognized that we need nuclear weapons as well and if there's a the problem areas that the US is building.
Well Russia and China are building.
Or earlier that you want.
Yeah nuclear weapon that it -- becoming more dangerous world what city world.
You know -- -- Washington free begin this morning you had an article that I thought.
Really talked about the big picture of the leaking bad Snowdon has found the NSA -- and you sad that there is significant.
And irreparable -- national security damage as a result of his legs and you also imply mr.
He buried this guy was a -- all along once you explain what you you've written about and tell -- by significant.
Current and former officials as well.
Is elegant and security nightmare.
First of all they have to assume the worse and that is both China and Russia have seen this secret.
Edwards -- and it's healed over certain period of time -- -- work as a contractor and National Security Agency as well.
It back it -- the this is a very serious problem.
You know end of one official says they will.
That we the Bradley definitely that was supposed to heightened security and obviously -- you know it.
You -- local level of fiscal I think I'm gaining access to some of them -- you didn't pay.
There's -- suggestion that he they have if you US nuclear world that are being developed.
Under President Obama as you guys announced last week that -- would reduce the reliance on nuclear weapons -- -- So would you say is that he could well have given the Chinese and the Russians as part of his debriefing.
This single -- up to date.
Highly classified US nuclear weapons.
Well weapons policy and weapons plants.
This is the worst is there.
-- -- -- It marks you know what he did -- -- -- chat with authority in he indicated that yet active military secret.
But that is so far as disclosed in the operational military.
-- -- Or it was on the run.
There's no question.
Russian intelligence is probably by its recent.
About -- OK well thank you so much that builders you can months -- -- bill -- and you can also read him online in the Washington freebie and he's got unbelievable source -- particularly intelligence.
Thanks so much for joining us now.
Thank you -- -- -- -- Catherine Herridge -- power in history from Washington Katharine what's the latest.
He -- he basin are reporting today out -- got a very unusual situation.
A developing in Moscow we spoke with the Russian embassy.
Here in DC and they told us that in a typical situation.
A transit these which is what we believe -- Snowdon has.
Based on the comments of the Russian president that's only good for 72 hours so with his arrival Sunday that transit these.
Expires later today.
After that you need a tourist -- And what was interesting is that in both of these cases you have to apply for those documents.
I had this came up with the State Department the State Department would not be drawn in the last hour on what exactly will happen when this transit visa runs out.
This is not a typical situation so.
It's certainly -- the latitude the Russians to make an exception but he and we're -- -- in a very.
To say the least and the Ecuadorian government is now.
Pressing the Obama administration to put in writing why they feel that Edwards -- -- bid for a silent should be denied by that.
Countries so Ecuador.
In its own way sort of pushing back.
Against the White House and the Justice Department on their claims that he should be sent back to the US.
Cavern one quick follow up question from -- reporting is there any indication that Snowden -- going.
Well air flight told us this morning at that there had been a ticket for him it does not appear to be.
This ticket from Monday to Cuba there had been a reservation.
It it had been canceled it was no longer -- active reservation and there's no information on what the final destination.
Was so they know active.
Reservations for Edwards -- on -- -- -- which would be the airline he has to take.
By the transit visa runs out later today and you know.
I I don't know if I'd want to be him right now because the because it does seem that the Ecuadorian government.
Is it sort of backing off a little bit -- depressing.
The White House but they're also saying it -- could take them several months to decide his application as they did with Julian Assange who is now.
Living in a safe haven if you will Ecuadorean embassy in -- and and then also Iceland has said publicly that they typically don't consider requests for asylum until you're actually on their soil which.
Which he is his not I think the one thing to consider though still.
And this is kinda wild card idea but it certainly in the back of my mind whether all of this is a bit of a public -- Because it's got everybody looking at one direction.
While in effect snow and may be going in a completely different.
A direction with at least certainly with the blessing of the Chinese and Russians if not the help.
Catherine I think what you ought to do is do a movie script for this because we -- Tom Hanks movie and Jason Bourne movie nobody believed this.
-- realize that they might in the movies thanks so much for updating thanks ahead on the -- thanks Hank Aaron.
A -- -- take a quick break and then come and talk about Iran and Syria.
And what they're up to.
Hi welcome back to Defcon three I'm -- team that brought -- -- joining us now Michael Rubin has a resident scholar at the American.
And he's just returned from abroad with the latest on what he thinks is going on -- marriage -- when you're traveling.
And we -- the elections in Iran it looked like the moderate won some people -- this is saying.
Oh this is a new Iran were an hour or to have a reform -- we're going to be able to -- -- Other people have -- -- All -- -- your bottles what's your take Michael.
My -- is.
All wind new bottles the presidency and Avery in Iran it's more about style than substance that's really the supreme leader -- in -- Or as -- -- -- -- came back from Iraq.
The Iraqis of course live right next to Iran.
They go back and forth them what they basically say is hey look no real change.
They joked that the real president underground at the sky cops and I'm so much confidential amount -- -- Who's the head of the Islamic revolutionary guard or is the lead with sports.
-- you anticipate that they'll be any change in the Iranian position negotiating position Iran's nuclear weapons are based are going in the same direction they've been going enriches.
Race to the finish Michael.
I think it very much of the race to the in this case the.
The new president elect a -- -- of course used to be in Iran -- nuclear negotiator.
And I think the style -- router or chains but you know when he -- -- Iranian press.
Back a few years ago about how he would pull the wool over the americans' lives but he said with this.
-- -- the current president.
Had gotten everyone worried with his rhetoric with -- holocaust denial and so forth.
And what parts and raw politics that is used to that -- what I did which is talk about dialogue of civilizations.
Outreach and so forth and all the while when the diplomats in the west are -- We can start importing all the goods we need to really come to the conclusion of our nuclear program -- I was just last week an.
Israel and to and talk to some scholars there and they are concerned.
Seems to be a bit like you're saying with this new face this better rhetoric coming out of Iran that the United States and Iran might reach some kind of an agreement where Iran will be.
One turn of the screw away from a nuclear weapon the United States -- hail it as a great victory.
-- have a peace treaty we would re like you were talking about we will reinvest -- around.
We would drop the sanctions and yet if you're in the region live in the neighborhood like Israel does and you're talked about as the victim.
And they and the object of Iran's nuclear weapons program.
You're not comfortable with that -- you first -- you think there's possibility of that kind of an agreement and secondly if there is what is Israel to.
Well you know I think President Obama can be quite naive about some of these things the basic difference between the Israeli position right now.
And the American position is that Israel says that red line should be Iran should not be able to have a nuclear weapons capability.
While the United States says hey the real -- -- be Iran shouldn't have nuclear weapons.
The reality as you say it's just the turn of the screw we're actually in reality it's probably about a week difference.
The question is whether the United States has the intelligence and trees and to be able to -- -- when Iran makes that decision.
To build the nukes the other thing we need to keep in mind.
It's who would actually have commanding full custody of those nuclear weapons if Iran develops that it would be not only the -- was -- guard.
But the most hardline faction within the revolutionary guard and that's why Israel feels that -- -- existential threat.
Let's see what -- -- for example would never work.
Just that you're running public rises -- like they did in 2009.
But this time security forces start to join NC -- the regime is crumbling.
What's to stop that really hardline ideological unit -- the revolutionary guard from launching.
Knowing the resume their part of -- gonna die tomorrow.
For all those people that say hey look the -- not suicidal we can deter them we think in Vietnam you got a major flaw in the argument.
What about the situation with regard them to Syria -- -- puppet state cats pop.
Has ally and -- -- and -- increased violence and the Syrian civil war.
Explain it was what you think's right out of Syria and the Iranian involvement there.
Well certainly the Iranians look at Syria has traditionally they're only consistent ally its -- Iran's only Arab -- since the Islamic revolution.
And it's no secret that the Iranians are trying to set weaponry and and their own personnel into Syria to help prop up its soccer team.
And so if -- -- -- -- popped up by the Iranians and Iranians get that major assist from the Russians on one side and then on the other side.
You've got the Syrian rebels who were supposed to be army who -- Syrian rebel.
-- this is the real problem.
It's all well and good to say the Syrian rebels are Democrats -- freedom fighters but over the past two years there's been accurate radicalization among -- I go to Iraq about every six months several years ago the Iraqis were complaining about how this soccer team with sponsoring terrorism.
Six months ago there from the -- experts saying hey look you Americans shouldn't support the opposition in Syria.
Because they're all all Qaeda and perhaps we can take what -- Iraqi Shiites say with a grain of salt.
Because there's that sectarian divisions between the Shiites in Iran.
And the Sunni opposition in Syria but this trip to Iraq was really an eye opener and not just the Iraqi Shiites but also the Kurds who are pro American.
The Iraqi Christians and even many of Iraqis Sunni Arabs were saying.
You guys don't fully understand what the Syrian opposition has become there -- Qaeda and -- -- arm them were afraid that.
We need the Iraqis on the front line are going to be the ones that are gonna suffer the terrorists blow back at first but you Americans are gonna -- down -- line.
Iowa Michael if you have on one hand they Syrian government that their chemical weapons -- -- -- mass murdering now live with Iran government and on the other hand.
You have the Syrian rebels who as you point -- are probably predominately.
Al knows or fried or somehow.
Al-Qaeda affiliates say we have a dog in that hunt and it's not necessarily the case that we -- them kill each other right.
That's absolutely right we've got -- dispense with the logic that the enemy of my enemy is always my friend.
Because serious the case that proves that wrong that said we to a certain interest in Syria.
We don't want the Syrian refugee crisis from I'm.
Involving some of our allies and toppling those -- teams like -- -- kingdom Jordan.
We don't want those chemical weapons falling into the hands of either extremists so perhaps we might need to be vigilant when it comes to our own air power.
But perhaps it's.
Better if we do that job ourselves if the time comes rather than rely on some Syrian rebels who might be moderate today but al-Qaeda -- What about Jordan when I was in the region last week -- half a million refugees in Jordan.
Probably on their way towards a million they don't have food they don't have shelter they don't have -- they don't have water.
And that's at the equivalent of say fifty million refugees arriving on America's shores how destabilizing.
Them it is that's of the Jordanian government.
But that's the key issue -- it's not the humanitarian concern about the refugees that the US national interest but when you pump.
So many people into a kingdom like Jordan that as a limited population.
What it does is it sets up -- ascent up the price of apartments of water a food.
And Tobacco Road adds support for the the Jordanian government throughout the kingdom and that's where we -- you really need to worry about Jordan's stability.
Okay I want to thank you again Michael Rubin an American Enterprise Institute he literally just got off the plane he's supposed to be jet lag from his trip to Iraq.
A lot of sense to me thank you so much for giants' Michael thanks -- Well that's your rapid fire tour of the world and -- hot spots in the world and now we're gonna go back to the Zimmerman trial.
With Fox News -- come life thanks so much for giants service in Iraq them.
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