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Just happened the senate just voting to pass the immigration bill the vote -- 68 to 32.
All Democrats and fourteen Republicans voted in favor all of it.
My next guest was not one of them.
Can talk to Republican senator round -- senator you voted note I wanna know what -- -- objections work to this bill.
-- -- -- -- Did in favor of it and still am in favor of immigration reform I just think that immigration reform should be dependent on border security first.
So I had an amendment that said well hey guys let's secure the border and have congress vote on whether the border secure before we go forward -- my amendment failed.
They chose to go another -- and I just couldn't go along with it because.
I'm fearful that this won't fix illegal immigration that we still will have significant.
Illegal immigration with -- film.
-- those forty billion dollars extra for border security got -- high 20000.
Extra agents and by a lot of high tech surveillance equipment.
You're saying that's not good enough.
You wanted more security or a different way of -- find that the border was closed.
A two things I wanted congress to certify that the border was secure.
And to do that before we allowed legalization -- I think that would have ensured that we would do our job and that the government would secure the border.
But the second things equally as important.
I thought we had to have -- work pieces because right now about 400000 people coming to pick crops.
But only 65000.
Of them use a work visa program.
This bill is actually get a place new limits on act worker bee says any -- placed limits below with the market dictates it once for labor.
Then you will still have illegal immigration this bill makes a mistake of actually setting limits on -- worker visas that are too low.
Do you think that this bill could be fixed in the house to your satisfaction.
And passed the house.
Maybe I'm pushing hard with a lot of conservatives in the house to include congressional votes saying the borders secure.
This to me is more important than even the number of Border Patrol agents is that congress votes we don't leave it up to the president.
The problem is is the current bill on the senate allows the president to -- defense and all these other things are added in can be vetoed by the president.
I want congress to make the decision.
See the president already says the border secure currently says why have a little bit of mistrust over the president making this decision.
I think congress should make the decision that to me is an important distinction as -- the critics aside.
If you take this tough stance on this bill and the bill comes up in the house you'll lose the Hispanic vote -- -- some -- that once -- we you know I think that we need to treat people with dignity I think -- I don't -- -- find a place for those who are not documented in our country.
I am all for finding a place for people -- -- -- this country finding a place to legitimately have them in our society.
But I don't think that means I have to be for one particular bill this is a bill led by Democrats there will be a bill proposed for immigration reform.
Led by Republicans and I'm hoping that something I can get time do you think the two sides that the senate version and the house version whatever it is can get together in conference and come -- with a bill that would satisfy.
Well it depends on which bill we are talking about it we're talking about the bill that is based on -- house bill I think there is room for agreement.
But it's whether -- not the Democrats are gonna push the envelope so much.
That they are going to grasp -- some thing that turns off all the Republicans and a lot of grassroots America.
If it means expanding the work visa program and documented workers here in securing the -- of present job I think a lot of us can support that.
What about senator rubio who voted yes on this what do you make of that vote yes.
Mean I think he's well intentioned and I think he's trying to do the right thing and so I don't.
Imputed to him ill motives I think his motives are genuine he wants to do -- a lot of us want to do and that's fix the illegal immigration problem.
I disagree with the final bill but I think good people can honestly have disagreements has the Republican -- been split on this issue.
Now we're on different sides most Republicans would like sea border security first.
We're interest in more workers and our country.
And we're a little bit hesitant as to how quickly these workers become voters we think you need to become part of America and learn English and become assimilated.
And -- not against people becoming immigrants becoming citizens who we really want to expand the workers here.
And find a place for the workers are here and bring them out of the shadows.
At one issue to me personally I'm an immigrant obviously.
I was surprised.
That this bill contains such a long period of time.
Before someone who is now here illegally could be -- come fully legalized so to speak.
-- more than a decade I was surprised at that length of time that seems particularly tough to me.
I think some of its more than a decade and some of its less security immigrant here on an agricultural -- it's about five years plus three years is by understanding of the bill.
The other problem though is that when we're talking about legalizing these folks and the route to it.
To -- it's not so much the period of time as the appearance that it needs to be fair.
And there are some question about whether setting up a new -- is fair vs trying to work.
People into an existing pathway that's already -- is already in the long.
Senator John McCain -- -- more on this -- possible split in the Republican Party Senator John McCain says it does not give the president too much power.
You say it does.
There's a split here.
-- disagree I think that all of the powers given to the president to decide when the borders secure because there will be no future congressional votes.
And -- this senate package there will be no congressional votes on whether the borders secure this is the opposite of what conservatives want.
Conservatives myself included would like congress to vote again saying the borders secure before.
The process moves forward.
Gonna switch topics to the IRS on the other -- -- Capitol Hill more hearings today double file looks but still nobody thought I had.
To IRS people pleading the fifth doesn't seem like we getting any -- getting to the bottom of the scandal.
We you know I'm concerned it's not only just two or three agents or four agents I'm concerned that it could be a culture over there.
The IRS workers union gave a million dollars to Democrats over the last two cycles my concern is if you're Republican or conservative.
Can you get a fair shake from a group of workers that are giving all their money to one party and don't seem to -- the much in favor of giving Republicans or conservatives a fair shake.
How do you get a fair shake when all of the employee unions are giving them money to Democrats do you think the government machinery was used against the president's political opponents last year.
Yeah I think there's evidence here there's several people have come forward.
And had not only the IRS but the FBI -- ocean and all of these audits moving forward I think there's a great deal of evidence that this.
The bully apparatus of government is being used against political opponents -- around -- we appreciate -- being with us today on this historic day for the votes in the senate on immigration thank you so thank you.
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