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Welcome back to tactic join us live now Derek yeah Robert Bobby de -- publisher of social media Max and is an -- well.
We're talking up privacy your social media you know with everything going on with the NSA and all the other issues that we've been hearing about the last three or four weeks a lot of people and asking these questions.
If you go on your Twitter feed or -- FaceBook feeder or are linked in a different -- you may have.
You obviously noticed him three -- and if your -- active on those and one of those different types of social media platforms.
You'll see the people talking about whether or not their text can be read and Andy conversations are being monitored also even yesterday -- heard from someone.
Asking me about I message on -- on -- Apple iPhone.
And whether or not back -- -- monitored so a lot of questions out there Eric joins us now live talk all about it and Erica thanks for joining us -- -- are up with FaceBook and implications are now -- any time.
What we're talking about a course FaceBook and implications of all this gonna give us a rundown.
You know how much privacy of that we talked about this before we knew that FaceBook was had you know keeping a lot of our information passing it along.
What what are we talking about now when you bring in whole in his.
They situation -- the whole issue of invasion of privacy and like FaceBook in particular -- -- an enormous amount lobbying money in Washington DC because.
They want to make sure that as we need to country sort of debate the issue of invasion of privacy they can have a big sort of -- at stake in it and vote.
In what's private what's not.
Here's the reality no matter what Facebook's -- no matter what Twitter says.
No matter what anybody tells you if you type it into your keyboard it's bad -- for ever.
For ever whatever -- on the -- like the real world it doesn't disappear.
And it is recorded forever I mean if you look at you know recently with the with the whole -- with Edwards and I wouldn't.
The -- -- to document.
It was public it was -- factually.
Well they decided.
You know -- -- which -- take it down.
Well they took it down so that means nobody can see it anymore.
Except for the fact that everybody who has ever seen it or downloaded it as I mean Huffington Post yesterday it's something where they even gave you a link together.
So once you put it out there you can -- there's there's no vacuum cleaner to suck that information back up badly and don't.
Put it out on the Internet -- talking about.
-- Ryan Cameron we we've really talked about this on the show what a year ago it was about your employer or maybe the school you wanna go to and how they were going on -- -- going to lot of your accounts and looking up.
-- pictures and in some of the things you may have posted.
But this -- Implications here especially when you're talking about government surveillance I mean they've really stepped it up -- -- I mean that this is more than just a potential employers seeing you holding that's an example alcohol at a party.
That's right it's more you know and I've been saying for years is that.
Eight probably I would say in the next decade somebody's gonna run for president of the United States for president of the United States.
They're gonna look real good until something that they did on the Internet comes out and get a -- -- it's going to be like somebody sitting on Gary Hart's lap.
What it because of something they get on the Internet.
It doesn't really it doesn't matter at all you're leaving bread -- every single solitary time you go on the Internet you know kids -- college sort of they -- cause right now they know about that.
They know how to take down their pictures.
That they shouldn't have -- -- that they should change the privacy controls and settle a lot of people.
But it doesn't matter once it's -- that can't take it out.
You know one of the other issues I think that we have to deal with and it's something that -- talking with some of our our folks as we.
As we look into the NSA story and -- so many other stories that are going on right now in Washington.
And that is the idea of semantics.
For example they could stand up there in front of a podium and say we are not recording anybody.
Well and it says they're not lying because -- -- with the world record it is really kind of an.
All the words antiquated -- -- you don't record anybody anymore right and -- are you sitting down putting on cassette yet or are putting onto a dvd -- to stuff this is through links and metadata so.
They weren't record is is really useless correct.
Well correct I mean it's a good yeah.
It's a good way to give a sentence in -- you know at a press conference there are out and answer certainly they're not lying and not recording.
You know you're doing something else but you know.
The issue really comes down to this you know as far as the NSA comes Dallas and this whole issue with Edwards is.
You know there's one argument that the country is safer much safer because were able an -- and there's also the argument that is -- That we have prevented terrorist attacks because of information that we've gotten through -- so the question is for everybody.
Do you wanna give up some of your privacy in exchange to be safer or do you feel so strongly about your privacy that you don't want -- Yes and that's very good point I mean the company comes down to him how much are we willing to give up an -- argument also people say.
Well obviously we didn't you find out what was happening in Boston.
No we let that somehow slip through the cracks so while there may they may have thwarted some potential attacks as other ones that they haven't been able to to get a -- -- and I think it.
That's a -- up as well.
It's just you know it's -- way of defending the country one way.
You know has -- gone too far.
I mean that fact sheet at the NSA I mean if you read the whole thing it really boils down to and then the secret court decides whether or not we can monitor -- secret court.
And it's not congress it's not the country it's not a -- it's it's it's not what we think.
It's just the real reality of what things -- today and we can make all sorts of rules about this -- -- have all sorts of privacy about it.
I have been telling people for at least I don't know a decade.
You type it on your keyboard it is there it is not going to go away and it doesn't matter what anybody says so you know in the case of NSA.
Have eight because of the way that they monitor everything.
Saved many people's lives probably they -- Have they also in the -- wrapped in dated some people's privacy you don't need another big -- Probably also I mean personally I don't think I'm so impressed I don't think there's anything I've ever put on Mikey but like I could care less about.
But I'm also -- -- in the battle against a privacy.
Completely and I think it's and the people have to take into account I mean how much do we want to give up and it that's the best did the best question you -- you talk about.
Leaving red cup bread crumbs and it's not a great analogy.
I guess my my last quick question we have a short time here.
That is what can someone do they do you wanna share some of their -- -- but I don't want people to snoop there's there's really no way I mean there are couple of text apps out there and phone call apps out there that insist that they go through servers outside the US and it's almost impossible monitor but I'm told the pretty much.
Yeah I'll tell you safer that you still monitored at -- -- 100% of electronic communications.
Can be monitored 100%.
Everybody many a lot of companies will tell you not.
If you don't want to leave bread crumbs if you don't want if there's things that you think you're doing privately you're not if you're doing it electronically and just not.
All right -- -- joining us publisher of social media magnate he's an author who had -- before really appreciate your insight I think.
Really the headlines here for people home that are watching it comes down to you yet you don't want people know what -- -- and don't put on line and I think the bread crumbs and now these fantastic and as you said.
No matter what you have what have your -- my computer whatever they can monitor anything in fact that someone tell me who's in the know.
They you can take your cell phone battery out of your cell phone and they can still listen and still use the camera running because there's micro batteries inside out.
Right and even then that's right as cellphones are walking -- mean.
You know your iPhone -- Pretty much where you've been throughout the day every single night the camera can be used on -- I mean and -- all of technology forward.
And I got three and so forth that we know where you hawks we know where you live yet they -- and how much or doesn't that investing either I don't I thought you weren't -- caught on his -- Portland.
If there are Eric is again for joining us -- to -- yet or.
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