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Any unresolved problem segment tonight after clearing some major hurdles -- senate's immigration reform bill has passed.
Senator Marco Rubio who co wrote the legislation.
Gave an impassioned plea on the senate -- -- -- We're here in America.
Those who once had no vote.
We'll give their kids the chance at a life they always wanted for themselves here in America.
Generations of unfulfilled dreams will finally come to pass.
And that's why I support this reform.
Not just because I believe and immigrants.
But because I believe in America even more.
Joining me now from Washington with reaction senator Rand Paul of Kentucky.
-- of course voted against the measure it ended up getting 68 votes senator Paul -- for immigration reform -- short of the seventy.
-- -- -- -- -- Well you know I've always been in favor of trying to do something to fix immigration I think we do have problems we've got ten million people who have come here illegally.
We need to figure out how to secure our border.
And figure out how to have more legal immigration but I don't think this -- necessarily does it I've always said that conservatives in this country are opened immigration reform.
We want to see border security first.
And I don't think this -- quite gets there what is.
Is let me reaction the calls coming into your office senator Paul.
From the people of Kentucky who -- seen -- stagnating wages.
Struggling -- under -- unemployment -- -- many -- -- part time jobs.
80% of our phone calls have been against this immigration reform bill.
And -- but I would say that people are completely against doing some thing they're just against something that doesn't secure the border first.
-- Paul Ryan on my radio show last week.
Predicted that we would have quote a shortage of workers in the United States.
In coming years and that just that justifies bringing in millions of new workers ended his country.
Senator with seven point 6% -- employment and people saying that they they feel like they can't get ahead.
Am Marco Rubio talked about hopelessness among illegal immigrants there's a lot of -- that hopelessness out there and and middle America so do you believe this line about the shortage of workers that's coming.
But the interesting thing is this bill doesn't do anything to fix that this particular bill actually limits work visas -- -- work programs went on for because.
If you have a good robust work program.
Then you won't get people crossing the border illegally they will come in.
Legally to do work.
And so I don't think this bill actually fixes that.
I think there is some concern you know I saw statistic today that unemployment for those two have a high school degree only 24%.
Had to -- a college degree to about 4%.
So we do have a lot of blue collar workers that we do have to be concerned -- Private Beckett that leaves -- my next question.
Why are you personally senator in favor of bringing in all of these new people to work even though you voted against a spell.
If in fact we have so many Americans who are struggling today are you -- -- you wanted to see little believe that they're just out there there they can't cut it in some of these jobs.
Well I would say that the experience shows in the farmers tell me in my state in other states.
That for hiring people that work in the fields to pick crops for that hard work for nine dollars nine dollars and eighty cents an hour.
Then -- they advertise in the paper they aren't getting American applicants so I think we do need migrant workers I'm not opposed to a -- worker problem.
In fact I think if you have a migrant worker -- Program that works I think you'll get less illegal in the.
Rationed out promised that goes way beyond migrant workers to construction workers and people make -- -- more money -- a concern is of course we're gonna have this unending flow.
Of cheap labor under this bill.
And that's gonna continue to keep wages low as of course the CBO predicted -- -- let's move on -- another conversation about where we are in the world right now -- foreign policy.
Powell and senator Paul.
Then becoming president Paul how do you deal with Russia today.
Given all of our challenges.
Natalie this NSA situation but across the border with Syria.
And obviously also with China how would.
A deal -- attack.
You know I think the most important thing for any president would be that we need to have a constitutional foreign policy.
And our constitution actually mandates that congress has a role in this and that we don't frankly go to war without the approval of congress.
You know Madison was very firm in this he said you know history demonstrates.
The power most likely to go to war is the executives of the -- that power in the legislature.
On George Bush and I think his brother are also -- they talked about this strain of isolationism.
In the GOP and I think those comments are directed at people like you that you want America to retreat in the world and not get.
And I'm not not not that have not more robust foreign policy which also they believe is effective that's more the bush went to depart.
Again nothing could be further from the truth Tom for engaging in the world -- for diplomatic relations with the world that I'm for trading with the world.
And -- for protecting the country against our enemies but -- what I would say is that doesn't mean we always get involved and everybody civil war around the world.
And those who want to arm the Syrian rebels right now have to overcome to great ironies first they're going to be giving -- of a group of people who -- allied with al-Qaeda out.
And second there will be given groups arm.
To a group of Islamic rebels who are going to be fighting against Christians in this country and I think there's a certain irony there that I think most Americans are are not in favor of.
Thanks senator while I'm about time that.
Michael Bloomberg thinks people should be composting.
All right -- I know you're having a little closer Manchuria.
Yeah I -- Bloomberg.
That may be the one area that we do but you know we might differ.
I'm not for mandatory.
Complimenting him for voluntary -- -- I think I just wanted to make sure he got that -- Bennett thank you very much.
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